Who else has 4oht cyp other than VPX
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03-16-2004 02:38 PM
Registered User
Who else has 4oht cyp other than VPX
I did a search, got a site called hmgear.com, but it seems to be down, anyone else???
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03-16-2004 03:00 PM
Registered User
no one knows
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03-16-2004 03:14 PM
Idiot Savant
If I'm not mistaken Designer Supps will have a methly version of 4-oht around the first of April, don't know if they sale cyp though. Check it out.
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03-16-2004 03:41 PM
Registered User
Designer Supps is gonna have 4-oht cyp too , i remembered that I read it somewhere !
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03-16-2004 04:26 PM
Registered User
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03-16-2004 05:43 PM
Registered User
I believe HMGEAR has had problems due to customs holding up raw materials.
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03-16-2004 05:53 PM
Registered User
Is this the one that is not supposed to supress HPTA?
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03-16-2004 07:39 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by HUGE
Is this the one that is not supposed to supress HPTA?
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yep
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03-16-2004 08:06 PM
Registered User
hmgear's site is up now, they have the 4oht, but its a decanoate, even longer ester than the cyp, how many times would u guys still inject this guy, twice a week or three? Also the 100mg/ml kinda sucks...
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03-16-2004 08:10 PM
Banned
and what are the normal dosages.
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03-16-2004 08:16 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by Jarconis
hmgear's site is up now, they have the 4oht, but its a decanoate, even longer ester than the cyp, how many times would u guys still inject this guy, twice a week or three? Also the 100mg/ml kinda sucks...
I like the advance Hair Keeping Cycle
(Nandrolone-OH, Testosterone-OH, Advance 4-AD) for 6 weeks realy sound good for me !
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03-16-2004 08:17 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by hogiejoe
and what are the normal dosages.
look at the sample cycles at thier pages !
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03-16-2004 08:26 PM
Registered User
yeah, but sic, those bein decanoate esters, they wouldnt really even kick in till the 4th week mark, so what good is a 6 week cycle with those esters...
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03-16-2004 08:53 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by Jarconis
yeah, but sic, those bein decanoate esters, they wouldnt really even kick in till the 4th week mark, so what good is a 6 week cycle with those esters...
I guess you'll have to use a methyl with this , so i'll go with M 4-oht for 4 weeks , and i'll use another 4-ad stack like from DS the Pro-Sust for 6 weeks, and still keep the 4-ohn deconate for 8 weeks, that gotta give it a kick
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03-17-2004 04:09 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by sicosico
I like the advance Hair Keeping Cycle
(Nandrolone-OH, Testosterone-OH, Advance 4-AD) for 6 weeks realy sound good for me !
Some of the info on that site is BS OH-Nandrolone will be much harder on the hair than regular nandrolone because when deca is 5 alpha reduced it becomes much less androgenic rather than more androgenic like test. Nandrolone binds 3x stronger to the androgen receptor than test.
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03-17-2004 05:24 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by BIGAINS
Some of the info on that site is BS OH-Nandrolone will be much harder on the hair than regular nandrolone because when deca is 5 alpha reduced it becomes much less androgenic rather than more androgenic like test. Nandrolone binds 3x stronger to the androgen receptor than test.

being androgenic is not a meter for hair loss , but it is good on hair cause it does not convert to dht or dhn !
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03-17-2004 05:35 PM
Registered User
Sledge didnt answer my pm about when he expects to have his 4oht cyp out
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03-17-2004 05:45 PM
Registered User
Originally Posted by Jarconis
Sledge didnt answer my pm about when he expects to have his 4oht cyp out

I'm waiting on his methyl 4-oht !
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03-17-2004 09:15 PM
Registered User
Team Life Research has a decanoate as well. 200 mg/ml, 20 ml, for $85. A bit pricey, but they're out there.
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03-22-2004 03:13 PM
Super Lab Rat
I can only keep the 4oht cyp stable at around 100mg/ml, i feel correct dosing would be 1000mg per week, which means those are frequent and large injections. Any shorter of an ester and it would be even worse, I looked into 4 oht prop but youare looking at something like 25-45mg/ml. what would make 4oht deca good would be for those who like the idea of HRT, but other then using a ****load for a frontload along with a good oral it would take forever to start to work. But I am still looking around.
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