Who else has 4oht cyp other than VPX

  1. Who else has 4oht cyp other than VPX


    I did a search, got a site called hmgear.com, but it seems to be down, anyone else???

  2. Unhappy


    no one knows

  3. If I'm not mistaken Designer Supps will have a methly version of 4-oht around the first of April, don't know if they sale cyp though. Check it out.
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  4. Designer Supps is gonna have 4-oht cyp too , i remembered that I read it somewhere !

  5. ah, stellar

  6. I believe HMGEAR has had problems due to customs holding up raw materials.

  7. Is this the one that is not supposed to supress HPTA?





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  8. Quote Originally Posted by HUGE
    Is this the one that is not supposed to supress HPTA?





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    yep

  9. hmgear's site is up now, they have the 4oht, but its a decanoate, even longer ester than the cyp, how many times would u guys still inject this guy, twice a week or three? Also the 100mg/ml kinda sucks...

  10. and what are the normal dosages.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Jarconis
    hmgear's site is up now, they have the 4oht, but its a decanoate, even longer ester than the cyp, how many times would u guys still inject this guy, twice a week or three? Also the 100mg/ml kinda sucks...
    I like the advance Hair Keeping Cycle
    (Nandrolone-OH, Testosterone-OH, Advance 4-AD) for 6 weeks realy sound good for me !

  12. Quote Originally Posted by hogiejoe
    and what are the normal dosages.
    look at the sample cycles at thier pages !

  13. yeah, but sic, those bein decanoate esters, they wouldnt really even kick in till the 4th week mark, so what good is a 6 week cycle with those esters...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Jarconis
    yeah, but sic, those bein decanoate esters, they wouldnt really even kick in till the 4th week mark, so what good is a 6 week cycle with those esters...
    I guess you'll have to use a methyl with this , so i'll go with M 4-oht for 4 weeks , and i'll use another 4-ad stack like from DS the Pro-Sust for 6 weeks, and still keep the 4-ohn deconate for 8 weeks, that gotta give it a kick

  15. Quote Originally Posted by sicosico
    I like the advance Hair Keeping Cycle
    (Nandrolone-OH, Testosterone-OH, Advance 4-AD) for 6 weeks realy sound good for me !
    Some of the info on that site is BS OH-Nandrolone will be much harder on the hair than regular nandrolone because when deca is 5 alpha reduced it becomes much less androgenic rather than more androgenic like test. Nandrolone binds 3x stronger to the androgen receptor than test.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by BIGAINS
    Some of the info on that site is BS OH-Nandrolone will be much harder on the hair than regular nandrolone because when deca is 5 alpha reduced it becomes much less androgenic rather than more androgenic like test. Nandrolone binds 3x stronger to the androgen receptor than test.
    being androgenic is not a meter for hair loss , but it is good on hair cause it does not convert to dht or dhn !

  17. Sledge didnt answer my pm about when he expects to have his 4oht cyp out

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jarconis
    Sledge didnt answer my pm about when he expects to have his 4oht cyp out
    I'm waiting on his methyl 4-oht !

  19. Team Life Research has a decanoate as well. 200 mg/ml, 20 ml, for $85. A bit pricey, but they're out there.

  20. I can only keep the 4oht cyp stable at around 100mg/ml, i feel correct dosing would be 1000mg per week, which means those are frequent and large injections. Any shorter of an ester and it would be even worse, I looked into 4 oht prop but youare looking at something like 25-45mg/ml. what would make 4oht deca good would be for those who like the idea of HRT, but other then using a ****load for a frontload along with a good oral it would take forever to start to work. But I am still looking around.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jcc
    Team Life Research has a decanoate as well. 200 mg/ml, 20 ml, for $85. A bit pricey, but they're out there.
    Bro, its 40ml size not 20, so not a bad price afterall.

  22. Im sorry, the decanoate ester is only 15 days

    Formate 1.5 days
    Acetate 3 days
    Propionate 4.5 days
    Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
    Butyrate 6 days
    Valerate 7.5 days
    Hexanoate 9 days
    Caproate 9 days
    Isocaproate 9 days
    Heptanoate 10.5 days
    Enanthate 10.5 days
    Octanoate 12 days
    Cypionate 12 days
    Nonanoate 13.5 days
    Decanoate 15 days
    Undecanoate 16.5 days

  23. right, 15 days will mean you will still need a good size frontload. I would expect 300-400mgs per day for the first 5 days and then use 1000-1200mgs per week.

    I would use a methyl for the first 3 weeks, while running the 4ohn deca till week 6, then drop that and add another shorter acting compound, either 4 ad prop or a different methyl for the last 2 weeks. then you will be able to start PCT and have everything almost completley out of the system.

    For ex.
    week 1: 400mg 4OHN Deca per day for the first 5 days with 3mgs MDien or 30mgs M14 per day
    weeks 2+3: 1200mg 4 OHN Deca split into 3 different doses, with same methyl dose
    weeks 4,5,6: 1200mgs 4ohn Deca split into 3 different doses- no methyl
    weeks 7,8: 300mgs 4 ad prop eod and or a different methyl from tehfirst 3 weeks.
    Start PCT day 1 of week 9

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Designer Supps
    right, 15 days will mean you will still need a good size frontload. I would expect 300-400mgs per day for the first 5 days and then use 1000-1200mgs per week.

    I would use a methyl for the first 3 weeks, while running the 4ohn deca till week 6, then drop that and add another shorter acting compound, either 4 ad prop or a different methyl for the last 2 weeks. then you will be able to start PCT and have everything almost completley out of the system.

    For ex.
    week 1: 400mg 4OHN Deca per day for the first 5 days with 3mgs MDien or 30mgs M14 per day
    weeks 2+3: 1200mg 4 OHN Deca split into 3 different doses, with same methyl dose
    weeks 4,5,6: 1200mgs 4ohn Deca split into 3 different doses- no methyl
    weeks 7,8: 300mgs 4 ad prop eod and or a different methyl from tehfirst 3 weeks.
    Start PCT day 1 of week 9
    Interesting combo there. Would you shoot the 4ohn and the 4ad prop?
  

  
 

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