Who else has 4oht cyp other than VPX

If I'm not mistaken Designer Supps will have a methly version of 4-oht around the first of April, don't know if they sale cyp though. Check it out.
 
hmgear's site is up now, they have the 4oht, but its a decanoate, even longer ester than the cyp, how many times would u guys still inject this guy, twice a week or three? Also the 100mg/ml kinda sucks...
 
Jarconis said:
hmgear's site is up now, they have the 4oht, but its a decanoate, even longer ester than the cyp, how many times would u guys still inject this guy, twice a week or three? Also the 100mg/ml kinda sucks...
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I like the advance Hair Keeping Cycle
(Nandrolone-OH, Testosterone-OH, Advance 4-AD) for 6 weeks realy sound good for me !
 
yeah, but sic, those bein decanoate esters, they wouldnt really even kick in till the 4th week mark, so what good is a 6 week cycle with those esters...
 
Jarconis said:
yeah, but sic, those bein decanoate esters, they wouldnt really even kick in till the 4th week mark, so what good is a 6 week cycle with those esters...
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I guess you'll have to use a methyl with this , so i'll go with M 4-oht for 4 weeks , and i'll use another 4-ad stack like from DS the Pro-Sust for 6 weeks, and still keep the 4-ohn deconate for 8 weeks, that gotta give it a kick
 
sicosico said:
I like the advance Hair Keeping Cycle
(Nandrolone-OH, Testosterone-OH, Advance 4-AD) for 6 weeks realy sound good for me !
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Some of the info on that site is BS OH-Nandrolone will be much harder on the hair than regular nandrolone because when deca is 5 alpha reduced it becomes much less androgenic rather than more androgenic like test. Nandrolone binds 3x stronger to the androgen receptor than test. :saw:
 
BIGAINS said:
Some of the info on that site is BS OH-Nandrolone will be much harder on the hair than regular nandrolone because when deca is 5 alpha reduced it becomes much less androgenic rather than more androgenic like test. Nandrolone binds 3x stronger to the androgen receptor than test. :saw:
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being androgenic is not a meter for hair loss , but it is good on hair cause it does not convert to dht or dhn !
 
Team Life Research has a decanoate as well. 200 mg/ml, 20 ml, for $85. A bit pricey, but they're out there.
 
I can only keep the 4oht cyp stable at around 100mg/ml, i feel correct dosing would be 1000mg per week, which means those are frequent and large injections. Any shorter of an ester and it would be even worse, I looked into 4 oht prop but youare looking at something like 25-45mg/ml. what would make 4oht deca good would be for those who like the idea of HRT, but other then using a shitload for a frontload along with a good oral it would take forever to start to work. But I am still looking around.
 
Im sorry, the decanoate ester is only 15 days

Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days
 
right, 15 days will mean you will still need a good size frontload. I would expect 300-400mgs per day for the first 5 days and then use 1000-1200mgs per week.

I would use a methyl for the first 3 weeks, while running the 4ohn deca till week 6, then drop that and add another shorter acting compound, either 4 ad prop or a different methyl for the last 2 weeks. then you will be able to start PCT and have everything almost completley out of the system.

For ex.
week 1: 400mg 4OHN Deca per day for the first 5 days with 3mgs MDien or 30mgs M14 per day
weeks 2+3: 1200mg 4 OHN Deca split into 3 different doses, with same methyl dose
weeks 4,5,6: 1200mgs 4ohn Deca split into 3 different doses- no methyl
weeks 7,8: 300mgs 4 ad prop eod and or a different methyl from tehfirst 3 weeks.
Start PCT day 1 of week 9
 
Designer Supps said:
right, 15 days will mean you will still need a good size frontload. I would expect 300-400mgs per day for the first 5 days and then use 1000-1200mgs per week.

I would use a methyl for the first 3 weeks, while running the 4ohn deca till week 6, then drop that and add another shorter acting compound, either 4 ad prop or a different methyl for the last 2 weeks. then you will be able to start PCT and have everything almost completley out of the system.

For ex.
week 1: 400mg 4OHN Deca per day for the first 5 days with 3mgs MDien or 30mgs M14 per day
weeks 2+3: 1200mg 4 OHN Deca split into 3 different doses, with same methyl dose
weeks 4,5,6: 1200mgs 4ohn Deca split into 3 different doses- no methyl
weeks 7,8: 300mgs 4 ad prop eod and or a different methyl from tehfirst 3 weeks.
Start PCT day 1 of week 9
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Interesting combo there. Would you shoot the 4ohn and the 4ad prop?
 
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