Either its the tren or epi but I can't sleep worth crap. I'm 8 days into my cycle and some nights, like tonight I cannot sleep for the life of me. Anything I can do to make me sleep?
melatonin does the job for me but howz that xanax and valium combo doing for u just wondering b/c i take those off cycle to relax and chill but on cycle i fear it my put more strain on liver just wondering? on cycle no alcohol kind of stressed work and train need some relax time :knockedout:its the tren... id try to make some type of sleep ****tail .. youll have to experiment...whatever works best for u... try any mixture of... melatonin, valerian root, gaba, bulk-1-carboxy/powefull.. and any benzo of your choice.. i switch up between valium and xanax... as xanax helps me fall asleep well but valium helps me stay asleep better.. i dunno what pills u can get ur hands on .. but shouldnt be hard to get ambien or trazodone which should take care of issues
If u mean midnight that's way too late def try earlier will totally help.I try to space it out as I wake up around 9 AM and take the last dose around 12PM (go to bed at 2AM)
But i'll start taking around 8
melatonin does the job for me but howz that xanax and valium combo doing for u just wondering b/c i take those off cycle to relax and chill but on cycle i fear it my put more strain on liver just wondering? on cycle no alcohol kind of stressed work and train need some relax time :knockedout:
That is weird. Benzos are notorious for interfering with sleep architecture, decreasing both deep (slow wave) and REM stages of sleep, while increasing light sleep. As far as muscle repair, that occurs during deep sleep, not REM. That's why non-benzo hypnotics (Ambien, Lunesta, Sonata) are prescribed for sleep. Only when they fail, doctors resort to benzos, usually tradozone. Ambien also has a negative impact on sleep quality, but not like the traditional benzos. Sonata is where it is at, because it is much less likely to interfere with % of time you spend in the various sleep stages. Plus it has a half life of like an hour so that's nice.i do the complete opposite.. i pretty much only use benzos on cycle to improve my quality of sleep... i wake up feeling amazing.. my body is no longer sore, i get 10hrs quality deep rem sleep... and it really helps my body heal on cycle.. 2mg of xanax is not putting considerable strain on liver... think of ppl running methyls at 100mg.. i use melatonin too..i pop those like skittles..anytime i wake up in the night... ill wake up slam a chicken breast and take 6mg melatonin.. back to sleep for 3-4more hours quality sleep..
Passiflora extract definately relaxes me and helps me fall asleep. I feel SUPER groggy in the morning thoughsee my epitren log... samething
Here in brasil we got an very cheap fruit "maracujá", that gots Passiflora, a very good anti-anxiety and sleep inducer. maybe it is like valerian!
Just so you know, these idiots aren't talking about tren. They are talking about some stupid prohormone.trazodone is the only thing that really helps. I used klonopin for a while but benzo withdrawl is not pleasant. Ive had no sides from trazodone while on tren. You just feel like **** in the morn is all.
Lower your tren dosages.
Some people can go as high as 700 wk, God bless em.
Anything above 500 is murder for me. 300-400 isnt as bad but the sweating is still pronounced.
Ive stayed up many, many times for 36-48 hrs straight and then only slept for maybe 5-6 hrs, waking up every 2 hrs drenched.
Just lower your dose and find your sweetspot. melatonin and herbs do NOTHING for sleep while on tren. at one point i was using 400 mgs of diphenhydramine stacked with doxylamine, phenibut and still waking up.
get trazodone and lower your tren dose.