clomid vs nolva

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They both suck. Get yourself some Novedex XT, brah.

U runin dat dere Tren?
 
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^ shut up LMAO ;)

nolve is for estro clomid is too kick start ur testy
 

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different drugs with different purposes. I use them both in PCT, you can see in my log, research the PCT forum to find your answers.
 
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Nolva really is superior to Clomid in most ways. I've read somewhere that estrogen is controlled better at 20 mg nolva then 150 mg clomid. And clomid actually has a designer estrogen or some **** in it. Basically they both bring back HPTA levels by the same mechanism but nolva is more cost effective and far better mg for mg. The "clomid is better for getting your balls back" is just a claim that was created for the clomid developers to sell their product. Maybe I'm being a little silly. but nolva is better
 
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The only thing with nolva is that it may upregulate progesterone receptors which could be a bad thing if your cycle consisted of a 19-nor compound.
 
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depends on what cycle your doing. But clomi ftw
 
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Is Clomid inferior to Nolva??
For most people, Nolva is a lot better than clomid, so yes it is inferior. Nolva restarts your HPTA function faster, helps you produce LH faster and at greater amounts, which in turn means more testosterone. Nolva is also good for increases your good cholesterol. Their are studies that show this, im too lazy to dig em right now though. The two things unfortunate about nolva is, but really isnt a big deal, (to me at least) is the slight toxicity and it may accelerate progesterone (prolactin) based gyno, IE puffy, leaky nipples, if you run say a Tren based compound. However, I have used Nolva after a Tren compound and it did not effect my prolactin levels.
 

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This issue has been discussed a billion times before. It's like Ford vs. Chevy, you'll never find a solid consensus. Some people think Clomid is outdated, while others think Nolva is overrated. Google it and come to your own conclusions.
 
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Whats a PCT? TRT ftw!
This interests me to no avail...I have a question though and it may be dumb but....since you're always on test, your nuts would shrink and eventually stop working..right? soooo no orgasms? or does HCG take care of that?
 
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My GF works for UNC in a microbiology lab and we took a sample of my load to look at it under an electron microscope.

There were plenty of sperm cells but major mutations. Double heads, coinjoined sperms, sperm with 3 tails etc.

I think it def affects the quantity and quality of your sperm but you'll still be able to bust off decent loads. They just arent as white as usual. Theres certainly a lot of seminal fluid created from the prostate so you can get some decent volumous batches.

With HCG, sperm production is increased substantuially but it dwindles in time. So if huge porn star loads is what you seek, you may notice a change in that with trt.

Orgasms are still intense of course. id never trade off orgasms for musculature.

Hell, sometimes they seem more intense because you're libido is insane.

But yes, testicular size is decreased and loads seem smaller.

But look on the bright side....Less clean-up after you pop one off, less chance of your chick getting preggers and a smaller sack just makes your johnson look much more intimidating lol
 

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My GF works for UNC in a microbiology lab and we took a sample of my load to look at it under an electron microscope.

There were plenty of sperm cells but major mutations. Double heads, coinjoined sperms, sperm with 3 tails etc.

I think it def affects the quantity and quality of your sperm but you'll still be able to bust off decent loads. They just arent as white as usual. Theres certainly a lot of seminal fluid created from the prostate so you can get some decent volumous batches.

With HCG, sperm production is increased substantuially but it dwindles in time. So if huge porn star loads is what you seek, you may notice a change in that with trt.

Orgasms are still intense of course. id never trade off orgasms for musculature.

Hell, sometimes they seem more intense because you're libido is insane.

But yes, testicular size is decreased and loads seem smaller.

But look on the bright side....Less clean-up after you pop one off, less chance of your chick getting preggers and a smaller sack just makes your johnson look much more intimidating lol
lmfao
 
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^ wait so while on test, sperm is deformed? can u go more into detail or is it just for u since ur on test for a long extended period...... i want to make superbabies
 
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Price & mg/mg comparisons are meaningless... Where I buy them, clomid is more concentrated mL/mL & overall the price is very comparable.

Having used both I think clomid is far superior and while I admit that everyone will react differently, I still think nolva is overrated and its position as the default SERM for PCT is undeserved.

I think if you look at real AAS boards where juiceheads run real long/heavy injectable cycles, clomid is heavily preferred for PCT, and to me that speaks volumes.
 

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^ wait so while on test, sperm is deformed? can u go more into detail or is it just for u since ur on test for a long extended period...... i want to make superbabies
i read an article that all sperm can get deformed or damaged if a guy doesn't ejaculate regularly.. They say it's smart to regularly ejaculate to produce new healthy sperm.. i'm not saying go nuts with it but don't neglect your johnson!
 
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My GF works for UNC in a microbiology lab and we took a sample of my load to look at it under an electron microscope.

There were plenty of sperm cells but major mutations. Double heads, coinjoined sperms, sperm with 3 tails etc.

I think it def affects the quantity and quality of your sperm but you'll still be able to bust off decent loads. They just arent as white as usual. Theres certainly a lot of seminal fluid created from the prostate so you can get some decent volumous batches.

With HCG, sperm production is increased substantuially but it dwindles in time. So if huge porn star loads is what you seek, you may notice a change in that with trt.

Orgasms are still intense of course. id never trade off orgasms for musculature.

Hell, sometimes they seem more intense because you're libido is insane.

But yes, testicular size is decreased and loads seem smaller.

But look on the bright side....Less clean-up after you pop one off, less chance of your chick getting preggers and a smaller sack just makes your johnson look much more intimidating lol
First off thank you for addressing my question seriously and honestly. I just didn't know if after a certain amount of time on exogenous testosterone you're nuts completely shut off and 0 sperm would be produced. Definitely swayed my view in favor of TRT down the road a little bit.
 
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Price & mg/mg comparisons are meaningless... Where I buy them, clomid is more concentrated mL/mL & overall the price is very comparable.

Having used both I think clomid is far superior and while I admit that everyone will react differently, I still think nolva is overrated and its position as the default SERM for PCT is undeserved.

I think if you look at real AAS boards where juiceheads run real long/heavy injectable cycles, clomid is heavily preferred for PCT, and to me that speaks volumes.
Just out of curiousity..how do you generally dose the clomid in PCT?

I've heard the "shock" method works well with 150 the first few days and then 100 and eventually 50. I've also heard 50 mg straight through works just as well though.
 
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Just out of curiousity..how do you generally dose the clomid in PCT?

I've heard the "shock" method works well with 150 the first few days and then 100 and eventually 50. I've also heard 50 mg straight through works just as well though.
Yeah i did 150mg for 3 days then 100mg for 4 days then 50mg for 3 weeks

If anything I will attempt to dose it even higher in the future. I don't get any sides.
 
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Y not just run both?
 

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