curious....

  1. curious....


    im curious to what anyone has to say about incorporating dbol into a PH cycle


    hope i dont get flamed for this


  2. If you are going to use AAS, why not use test?

  3. perhaps for milder (is that a word?) cycle

    maybe like run 1-test w/ dbol and run nolva pct
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  4. You will loose most of what you gain from dbol only. With proper PCT you can keep most of your test gains.

  5. i see, could it be used perhaps to jump start a PH cycle like run it the first 4 weeks in an 8 week cycle

  6. could do d-bol and 4-ad if you like (basic dbol/test cycle)

  7. Come on Jweave you know those two aren't comparable

    And no don't jump start it with test, you could run prop for eight weeks.

  8. tell me more Jweave

  9. It's fine to jumpstart a PH cycle with dbol, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just do a test/dbol cycle (unless you don't want to pin and can't get ahold of test base to put in a transdermal). You have to remember to always have some sort of test (or PH that converts to it, in this case 4AD) in a real gear cycle IMHO, hence the reccomendation of dbol + 4AD.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  10. I was so worried about pinning the first time, now I kind of look forward to it

  11. thx manbeast, that is mainly the reason i dont wanna run Test, im scared to **** of needles. And before jumpin into an all out AAS cycle i wanted to get me feet wet a bit.

    Anyways, what dosages would u recommend running of dbol/4ad and for how long, i have researched it and i wont need to go over 15-20/mg dbol daily. but as far as other dosages and cycle length i need some info on, thx in advance

    and one last question, i know the answer to my question is dependant on more than one variable(training,diet, rest), but i cant help but ask how much one could gain on such a cycle

  12. Some will learn the hard way. Test is best for a reason.

  13. I'd run the cycle for a month and I'd dose it as follows:
    dbol - 25mg ED
    4AD - build your own http://powernutrition.net/product_in...roducts_id=262 at that link with 10 grams of 4AD, use 4ml every day.
    This would give you a very powerful bulker, you might bloat up a bit on it though so you might want to have an anti-e on hand for during cycle. I'd reccomend nolva or clomid for PCT as well.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  14. With 4AD and Dbol, you will definately bloat.

  15. sifu: 4AD is what converts to test, people have run fina:4AD cycles before, and if 4AD can keep "finadick" away, then I have no hesitation to reccomend running it with dbol. Yes, test is best, but like I said, if he can't get any test base powder to put in a transdermal, 4AD is the next best thing that doesn't require pinning.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  16. thx bros for your help any additional info greatly appreciated

  17. Manbeast I know it converts to test, but come on lets not compare apples to oranges.

  18. I never said eqivalent, I'm just presenting him with a cycle geared (no pun intended) to what he's able to/wants to run. Would I personally run this cycle? No, but I'm a freak that loves his needles! Seriously 40 in 12, if you can get dbol, I would try to get some test base powder (10g) and put that into a bottle of t-gel instead.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  19. will do man im gunna PM ya tomorrow i have some ?'s to ask ya if ya dont mind

  20. I don't mind any PM, as long as it is appropriate (unless you are female... then you can be as in-appropriate as you like! ).

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  21. Don't let manbeast fool you he swings both ways

  22. how many cycles have you done before bro?

    I would really consider pinning if you can, otherwise MB's got it with test base

  23. ive never juiced before, i have done 2 ph cycles, 1ad/4ad and a1test ethergels/4AD transdermal cycle, each 4 weeks long using 6 oxo post cycle
  

  
 

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