Game Time: Tren & SD .. Come on in!

[impulseoctane]

Alrighty kids, it's game time.

This log will be started on November 2nd (The 1st is a Sunday) and ran through roughly Jan 15 (incl PCT).

I would like any and all opinions, support, hate, whatever, let's hear it.

I will be taking before and after pics. I'll be posting as much as I can, but count on me missing days.

The goods:

DS: Purus Labs ePol (30mg Estra-4, 9 Tren and 15mg SD per pill) Will be running at 2X daily, for 4 weeks.

Support (not including staples, but know ill be taking multi, fish oil, efa, etc):
-LipidStabil
-Liver Armor
-Milk Thistle (running for 2 weeks prior to cycle, will stop before cycle and switch to LA)
-Hawthorne (again, 2 week preload, through PCT)
-P5P (Only if needed, don't normally have prolactin issues, had no problem with max lmg)
-Antioxidant pill thingys

PCT (6 weeks):
Clomid at 125/100/50/25/0/0
iForce Reversitol at 0/0/4/3/2/1
DHEA (as needed, only if clomid cant give the libido back)
Might add LG's Anadraulic State if they get the new flavors out in time, if not, I wont.

So, what's everyone's take?

IO

[carcaz13]

Very nice!! Looks like you have all the aspects of a proper cycle and PCT. One qestion...have you ran clomid at this dose for tren before? I've ran nolva after tren and didnt have any problems, although I know most people recomend clomid...I plan to take another go some time in january and am intrested on how others PCT'd on clomid.

[impulseoctane]

Very nice!! Looks like you have all the aspects of a proper cycle and PCT. One qestion...have you ran clomid at this dose for tren before? I've ran nolva after tren and didnt have any problems, although I know most people recomend clomid...I plan to take another go some time in january and am intrested on how others PCT'd on clomid.

Thanks man!

I haven't ran it over 100, but for SD and tren, I figured shut down would be pretty bad. Think I should only run 125 for the first few days, then drop to 100/100/50/50?

[carcaz13]

I'll be sure to follow you once you start. Good luck bro!

[indianballer]

Looks good to me...I will be running the same cycle starting about 2 weeks after you. I have the tren and superdrol separate though so I can play with the dosage a little bit...but my PCT will consist of Clomid, Letro, and Diesel Test Hardcore. Good luck bro.

[hard iron]

looks good bro, lookin forward to seeing how it works out for ya!

[bigzach1234]

Looks good to me...I will be running the same cycle starting about 2 weeks after you. I have the tren and superdrol separate though so I can play with the dosage a little bit...but my PCT will consist of Clomid, Letro, and Diesel Test Hardcore. Good luck bro.

there is no need to run letro in pct.. youll most likely get a rebound effect and suppressing far too much estrogen with letro.. especially for pct.. wats ur rationale for using it... u just worried about prog gyno?

[impulseoctane]

I'll be sure to follow you once you start. Good luck bro!

Sweet deal! I'll just be using this thread to post updates, so as long as you're subscribed, you should see it!

Looks good to me...I will be running the same cycle starting about 2 weeks after you. I have the tren and superdrol separate though so I can play with the dosage a little bit...but my PCT will consist of Clomid, Letro, and Diesel Test Hardcore. Good luck bro.

Yea, I would have liked to have been able to play with dosages, 30mg of SD kind of makes me iffy, but for 4 weeks with proper support, should be alright. If any problems do arise, I'll drop to 1 pill daily, which may render the Tren useless, but still on 15mg SD should be very effective!

looks good bro, lookin forward to seeing how it works out for ya!

Thanks Man! As I said earlier, I'll be posting up a full "before" profile with weight, routine, (est) diet, pictures, all the good stuff.

I planned it for Nov-Jan to try and avoid large party events; my birthday is halloween weekend, so I'm sure I'll be partying then. Thanksgiving and Christmas shouldn't interfere since it's rare I'm looking to drink too much eggnog (The inlaws have been nice the last year, so I should be alright!) And I should be all set to rock in the new year hopefully about 15 pounds heavier and as the DD! I'll just DD for the few months I'm on anyway, then they owe me big time .

Out of curiosity though, by Jan 1, I should be down to 50 or even 25mg clomid, with 2-3 caps of reversitol, what are the dangers of drinking at this point? A few glasses of champagne alright? I won't have anything while on SD/Tren at all.

[indianballer]

I have a little bit progestin induced gyno (most likely from 19 nor and max-lmg) and I'm trying to just knock that out in PCT. I'm going to probably start the letro in week 3 or 4 of PCT when my test is gettin higher so that way I know none of it is going to be aromatized...I will run the letro and Diesel Test Hardcore for like 3 or 4 weeks past the end of the Clomid.

there is no need to run letro in pct.. youll most likely get a rebound effect and suppressing far too much estrogen with letro.. especially for pct.. wats ur rationale for using it... u just worried about prog gyno?

[indianballer]

BTW did I read that wrong or is it 15 mg's SD and 15 mg's PP per pill alongside the tren? That sounds like the most potent stack ever...you are going to blow up. Proper support supps are a given. superdrol and tren alone has me kind of anxious...I've been buying more support supps every time I go into walmart to get ready on top of Cycle Support

[indianballer]

and I had been toying with the idea of just running the letro along with cabergoline for 4 weeks prior to running the cycle and then getting a weaker A.I. (probably l-dex or a-dex or maybe even 6-bromo) to run with the diesel test past the clomid

[indianballer]

Sorry for basically restating my thread in your thread...I'm tripping. my bad man.

[impulseoctane]

BTW did I read that wrong or is it 15 mg's SD and 15 mg's PP per pill alongside the tren? That sounds like the most potent stack ever...you are going to blow up. Proper support supps are a given. superdrol and tren alone has me kind of anxious...I've been buying more support supps every time I go into walmart to get ready on top of Cycle Support

My bad on that, "pp" I meant "per pill"; there's NO Phera in ePol. Though it's a great idea!

Sorry for basically restating my thread in your thread...I'm tripping. my bad man.

No worries at all bro, that's what it's here for.

Also, sorry I can't help with your letro questions, I don't know enough about it to feel comfortable offering advice on it. I'm sure someone can chime in.

[Liftingstud]

30mg of SD for 4 wks... thats a bit much esp when stacked with tren but what can you do when it a combo... why i would much rather have the two sperate so I can adjust each compounds dosage. good luck bro, should have some sick gains.

[impulseoctane]

30mg of SD for 4 wks... thats a bit much esp when stacked with tren but what can you do when it a combo... why i would much rather have the two sperate so I can adjust each compounds dosage. good luck bro, should have some sick gains.

I agree, but this is all I've got. If I had them separate, I'd run the SD lower, and the Tren higher; but like you said, there's not really a choice with a combo!

Either way, I'm gonna give it a shot. If I can't grow on 30mg SD for 4 weeks, it's time to pick up knitting, because clearly BB'ing isn't for me! <kidding, but seriously, the gains should be nucking futs for a legal (mostly)otc cycle>

[Liftingstud]

I agree, but this is all I've got. If I had them separate, I'd run the SD lower, and the Tren higher; but like you said, there's not really a choice with a combo!

Either way, I'm gonna give it a shot. If I can't grow on 30mg SD for 4 weeks, it's time to pick up knitting, because clearly BB'ing isn't for me! <kidding, but seriously, the gains should be nucking futs for a legal (mostly)otc cycle>

Or hope your back doesnt explode when you do deads and squats... at 30mg I had serious back pumps during those workouts... more isnt always better esp with anabolics.

[impulseoctane]

Or hope your back doesnt explode when you do deads and squats... at 30mg I had serious back pumps during those workouts... more isnt always better esp with anabolics.

An exploded back wouldn't be good. Lets hope that doesn't happen.

Anyway, this starts tomorrow, November 2nd. Any last minute tips/advice?

I have two last questions:

1. Should I run a test booster like blue up or something on cycle to try to minimize suppression, or is that useless?

2. What's an optimal dosage of BCAAs? I have those 2,222mg tabs by ON that are so ****ing big a horse would choke on them but I pop about 3 or 4 a day, without a real dosing protocol. Any ideas as to a more organized dosing schedule?

[miamiboy305]

you should stack the e-pol with some halovar and see what happens

[impulseoctane]

you should stack the e-pol with some halovar and see what happens

I'm pretty sure tren and sd at crazy dosages should yield enough gains without the addition of another, less powerful methyl. Thanks though. (cant tell if serious ...)

Anyway, answers to any of my other questions?

[redrocket399]

An exploded back wouldn't be good. Lets hope that doesn't happen.

Anyway, this starts tomorrow, November 2nd. Any last minute tips/advice?

I have two last questions:

1. Should I run a test booster like blue up or something on cycle to try to minimize suppression, or is that useless?

2. What's an optimal dosage of BCAAs? I have those 2,222mg tabs by ON that are so ****ing big a horse would choke on them but I pop about 3 or 4 a day, without a real dosing protocol. Any ideas as to a more organized dosing schedule?

to your first question, maybe look into some PP's sustain alpha, as there has been great reviews in using it during a cycle for libido... other than that i would just wait till after your cycle.. (im running a cycling of EPOL starting Dec =] )

second, optimal dosage of bcaa would prob be around 10-20g post workout so honestly if i were you, i would get some bcaa powder because it has more of what you need and is so much more convienient. but the 2222mg pills can be used first thing in the morning, pre and post workout and right before bed.. i know what you mean dude, they are huge pills!