I know what I need and I am preloading cycle assist prior to the cycle. But my question is would you take the cycle assist, taurine, and liver tabs throughout the whole AAS cycle or just with the oral part of the cycle? Thanks guys
Last edited by Fat6; 10-14-2009 at 08:31 PM. Reason: Addition
Thanks man. bump for any other opinions
I don't use any support supps
not even liver or cycle assist?
Nope. The liver bounces back faster than any other organ than the thyroid, and I don't get high blood pressure from any anabolics at any dose that i've been dumb enough to try. at 40mg a day of superdrol I never went over 130/75.
If its prostate you are worried about, taking saw palmetto pre-cycle and in PCT is fine, but during cycle it can inhibit gains
up to you, i haven't used any on far harsher than that (well, depends on your phera dose I guess ). I believe in medicating an issue once it happens, not stuffing a ton more of **** in my mouth that my body has to process and my kidneys have to filter out when i'm already stressing it all with the volume of protein i'm putting down
taurine is ok, the rest is up to you
In the wake of EasyEJL i finally feel it's safe for me to say that I don't run any supports either... Basically taurine for back/leg days while on SD, and AI's while on test, I think thats it for me.
To answer the question though, most support supps are aimed at users using oral steroids because they're far harsher then injectables and it's generally considered unnecessary to run supports while on injectables (outside of AI, maybe something for BP, prostate).
In the end I think it's all personal choice... I feel I don't need them. Some people go kinda crazy with supports. Being safe is good, but i've seen people run so many OTC supports and PCT products that they coulda spent the money on a pretty legit injectable cycle and not had to worry about any of those things.
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<------ Hard to believe, but I wasn't on any anabolics in the avatar shot
Or did you mean the other AI? Well at any rate I have that as well (liquidex for in cycle and aromasin for post)
I dont even use AIs on test anymore he meant aromatase inhibitor
Gotcha, thanks alot guys and I guess I'll just see how it goes. I'm going to run the cycle assist and liv 52 and taurine with the phera and then after that see how it goes with the test I just found a buy one get one deal on nolva so it looks like I'm all set. I'll def log this if you guys are interested. I don't know how many phera kickstarts there have been but I'm running off of completely fresh receptors so this could be interesting . Thanks again guys.
I was actually considering an ergo max lmg kickstart to next blast bulk. That was the original compound with both the 2-ene and 3-ene isomers. Phera is the 2-ene only, which some people felt was cleaner
well, dang, dont know what to say, normally im the only one spittin no sups while on cycle, but save it for post. for the reasons jay already put.
I also, as some may know, have run some stupid cycles, and never had high bp. and my blood test always been normal or above normal pc.
but my results, and others who have similar results w/o supports on cycle, are most likely d/t them being healthy adult males. which aas are meant for. how do you know if your healthy? go see your doctor.
if you abuse aas, oral or inject, all the ancillaries wont help you.
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