havoc results after cycle?
- 10-12-2009, 07:19 PM
havoc results after cycle?
Hey i just finished my third cycle of havoc..ran this one at 20 30 40 50 50...kinda high but its the only doses where i can see results even 20 and 30 seem obsolete to my body..but the explosive strength gains and mass always come to me during pct...anyone else experience this?
- 10-12-2009, 09:51 PM
- 10-13-2009, 12:43 AM
Explosive strength gains on Havoc? Do tell..
What are you taking along with Havoc? What's your PCT look like? Diet? Workout schedule? Yada yada..
10-13-2009, 12:47 AM
havoc really does nothing unless dosed at 50mg.. i would honestly just start at 50mg and run it straight thru.. theres no point in tapering up.. but i suppose u could go 40/50/50/50 if you wanted to start lower.. i feel like the gains dont start coming until the last week or two also.. but starting higher should help this... also i have gotten no strength gains ever from havoc.. it just hardens me and gives me some vascularity, usually lose some admonial fat also.. my libido lovesss epi... but i get a bad rebound effect and my nipples kill on it and after.. did u get any weight gain?
10-13-2009, 11:25 AM
yea if i crank calories to like 4000 with 50mg of havoc i can gain around 10 pounds of lean mass and still gain vascularity and harden up with havoc...maybe i just respond really well to it...but as far as diet, pretty much decently healthy food, in college so pretty much cafe food, and training is a four day split, chest/tri back/bi shoulders/forearms legs...but no one else gets good strength gains from havoc?
10-13-2009, 12:43 PM
10-13-2009, 02:54 PM
03-28-2010, 09:38 PM
I am 19 year old college student. I am just getting back into lifting again. I just bought Havoc from amazon.com and i have received. I was wondering if you could tell me anything that you know about Havoc?
03-28-2010, 10:34 PM
19 just getting back into lifting........then get rid of your bottle of Havoc IMO...do the basics Train hard, eat big ...your to young and inexperienced to take Havoc...
03-28-2010, 10:42 PM
and my under the bed i mean in the freezer.
Back to the origional thread...
I didnt respond great to epi. I gained 8 lbs. and lost 4 of it after pct. Ill admit My diet wasnt perfect and I kinda ****ed up the cycle. Either way I didnt see much strength gain, only a recomp and deff increased vascularity. Its odd though, bc everyone seems to respond much different to epistane. For some its a god send for others its a disappointment.
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