How to use Insulin to my Advantage (I'm a Type 1 Diabetic)

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    How to use Insulin to my Advantage (I'm a Type 1 Diabetic)


    I know this tiopic has been covered time and time again but I still am a bit confused.

    First off, I am a Type 1 Diabetic and have been so for almost 13 years. Ive been lifting for about 3 years. It's incredibly hard to get any gains because the amount of supplements that diabetics can take and still have long-term health is very small.

    I've heard about building muscle by using insulin before and now I'm really starting to research it. Another thread on this forum said that you can take up to 10 IU's of insulin which is nuts because even non-diabetics will be passed out on the floor taking that much.

    So, I am curious and maybe I am misunderstanding something. Any help is appreciated!

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    Its perfectly possible to take 10uis of insultin just as long as you take a lot of carbs...this really isnt something that you can just be told getting it wrong will end your life....research and research good...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random181 View Post
    Its perfectly possible to take 10uis of insultin just as long as you take a lot of carbs
    Well that's one of the things I'm confused about. If you're eating lots of carbs then isn't the extra insulin you're taking just being used to cover the food you just ate?
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    i thought it would also shuttle nutrients into the muscle too, when post workout its most effective to do so
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    Well I eat a ton of food post-workout but I'm not 'big' by any means
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    raise the insulin a little see how that works
    ~ IRON LIVERô________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    raise the insulin a little see how that works
    No do not do this without total knowledge of what you are doing.....please be aware that "raising the insulin" a little can kill you quite easily until you understand totally what you are doing do not mess with your medication at all...I dont think I am allowed to link you but if you search google for guides on insulin use im sure you will find some god guides...
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    I know not to raise my levels more than i need - that causes hypoglycemia, blacking out, diabetic coma, potentially death. I'm in the health field and am VERY involved in diabetes so I know what to and not to do.
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    Good for you my friend, its very nice to see someone who actually understands their medication!
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    Use it the way ur doctor says to.
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    I use it to regulate my blood sugar...but I want to use it to my advantage to build muscle. I just cannot get a decisive answer on how to do it properly.
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    Hi. I'm Diabetic type 1 too. I will Stongly advise you to tjeck out the forum are called ?? hmm? I think its somthimg like Growth Factors / Igf-1.hormone somthing.??
    In that "place" there are some GREAT Stickies on "slin" use.
    Ps. the kind of Slin(Insulin) we use for it is the Fast Short acting "Rapid" kind.
    well here in scandinavia the fast ones are called "Rapid" kinds.
    So Go tjeck the forum place for Igf-1 and Growth Factors. Good Luck.
    OBS. DON'T try out when NOT Knowing Exactly how its Done.
    PS. The Forum is call'd : Igf-1 / GH
    I can see there is 1 stickie there direct on Isulin Use , Start There.!!!!! ;o)
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    The basic concept is to eat a lot of carbs and protein along with your slin. Stay as close to zero fat as you can post wo. The insulin shuttles the carbs and the protein goes with it strait into your muscles. Bodybuilders use a much higher dose than you normally use. Just do it slowly and carefully. Make sure you have a friend with you and a lot of quick carbs within reach.

    There are a bunch of guides on the specifics of it you will need to research before trying this out.
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    So if I took straight maltodextrin post-workout with the required insulin what would that do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random181 View Post
    No do not do this without total knowledge of what you are doing.....please be aware that "raising the insulin" a little can kill you quite easily until you understand totally what you are doing do not mess with your medication at all...I dont think I am allowed to link you but if you search google for guides on insulin use im sure you will find some god guides...
    well ya it is dangerous, very sorry i gave a short reply i was buys.... ok if u go on the igf section and ask around some1 on there i belive posted a similar question and one of the top guys suggested he raise it up a little and he actually gained..... yet again WE ARE NOT doctors this is more of a hypothnies
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    op....are you sure your diabetic? have you just been diagnosed? it doesnt sound like you know very much about insulin for someone who "works in the medical field" and is diabetic. First off 10 iu is not a lot of insulin to take and most bb'ers do not take more than your average diabetic. Your doc may have started you out on 5 units a day but for the most part you average diabetic is using 50-100 units a day. Furthermore, since you really dont sound like you know what your doing...it would be tottally irresponsible for you to play with your dosage (without your docs consent) and reprehensible for me to help you do this.
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    ^^^^^not bein a d!ck...just tellin it like it is.
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    Well, if you read my original post you'll see that I've been diabetic for almost 13 years. When I said 10 iu's is a lot I meant that if you took 10 iu's by itself then it's almost an imminent death. Taking 10 iu's with food is nothing. Hell, I do that for breakfast every morning because of how much I eat.

    While you sound knowledgeable I did take offense to what you said because I have posted nothing to make you believe I am not knowledgeable in my own disease.

    From what I'm understanding (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that you eat a lot of carbs and protein post-workout and take the insulin. What I dot understand is that isn't the insulin just covering for the food I just ate like any other persons body? Or should I be taking more than even that (causing low blood sugar)?
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    Read. This is basic knowledge on why you eat protein and carbs post wo.
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    Listen here: Go to the Igf-1/GH section"forum" and READ that D... stickie.
    Why asking again and Again when I've Allready gave You the Best Answer.
    Its totaly Cool and well covered Info Over There.
    You WILL get you'r Q's Answered over there.
    Good Luck "Bro".
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    I think you are foolish to **** with insulin like this. One mistake and u deprive us of ur presence. Why not pick something else
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    And insulin on it's own isn't that great. U really need test gh to make it worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicodin View Post
    And insulin on it's own isn't that great. U really need test gh to make it worthwhile.
    i know its amazing poweful when combined with test but on its own it is definitely effective
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    my buddy just stared runnin insulin and he pretty young, and yes i explained him the dangers btu he is doing well follows all instuction from the igf section dosent go cheap on his meal and carbs. he is doing great!..... really had me thinkin of adding it next time
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