X-Tren hairloss?

[KgTomCat]

I have been doing some research on CEL X-Tren
19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3,17 dione
I know hairloss depends on genetics, some people have told me it will not lead to hairloss, but my good friend (he is a chemist) said it will, due to the fact that it is already converted to DHT, is this correct
What are others own experiences?

[dustin06MR]

bump for this question... i just bought some...

[KgTomCat]

yes, BUMP BUMP BUMP

[jsheely]

I'm about to finish a 6 week solo run and no hair loss whatsoever. 5 days left. Cycle was 90/90/90/120/120/120. No libido loss either, which I find unusual. Only real sides I've noticed are oily skin and increased bp, but nothing too severe.

[Tomahawk88]

I used the same compound before and I did notice my hair falling out but I have really good hair genes on my mother's side so I wasn't too worried.

[KgTomCat]

I'm about to finish a 6 week solo run and no hair loss whatsoever. 5 days left. Cycle was 90/90/90/120/120/120. No libido loss either, which I find unusual. Only real sides I've noticed are oily skin and increased bp, but nothing too severe.

I used the same compound before and I did notice my hair falling out but I have really good hair genes on my mother's side so I wasn't too worried.

My mothers side has good hair genes too so idk if I should be worried, what gains did yall have? strength, size, or both?
I read about one guy gaining 12 pounds of LBM, then another only 5 pounds

[luclyluciano]

My hairline has receded at the sides, not sure if that's considdered hairloss.

[Tomahawk88]

I blew the hell up and my strength was insane. I loved it basically except for the libido killing. I was keeping up with my bodybuilding friend and our other workout partner was saying my back was getting bigger than his. My friend who did bodybuilding was BIG and lean so it was def a compliment worth taking.

[KgTomCat]

My hairline has receded at the sides, not sure if that's considdered hairloss.

yes I have some recession too...but its thick everywhere else, so I dont now know if this means 'shedding'-if anyone could explain more it would be great!

I blew the hell up and my strength was insane. I loved it basically except for the libido killing. I was keeping up with my bodybuilding friend and our other workout partner was saying my back was getting bigger than his. My friend who did bodybuilding was BIG and lean so it was def a compliment worth taking.

I want this lol

[Tomahawk88]

Ya it was insane. It is what prompted me to pick up a few tren products. I am def stocked up. I just wish it didnt kill my libido so bad. I got so jacked and ripped but libido got scared I guess and ran away lol.

[KgTomCat]

Ya it was insane. It is what prompted me to pick up a few tren products. I am def stocked up. I just wish it didnt kill my libido so bad. I got so jacked and ripped but libido got scared I guess and ran away lol.

thats not too exciting, how old were u when u did it? PM me if you want

[UnrealMachine]

dude, tren killed my libido and i was on a half gram of test prop a week. I can live without a sex drive, and for everything else there's cialis, but the gyno made me stop.

I'd be much more worried about those than hairloss with this compound

[Tomahawk88]

21, I mean my libido took a dive pretty quick. I plan on running it again hopefully it doesnt happen again.

For me though the gains were insane. It is too tempting not to give it another go. I might try and pulse to see if that helps. I def have enough to play around with to see what I like best.

[KgTomCat]

dude, tren killed my libido and i was on a half gram of test prop a week. I can live without a sex drive, and for everything else there's cialis, but the gyno made me stop.

I'd be much more worried about those than hairloss with this compound

good point, just Ive never got gyno, Ive been shutdown once but everything came back, I just wanna keep my hair

[Tomahawk88]

good point, just Ive never got gyno, Ive been shutdown once but everything came back, I just wanna keep my hair

Become half asian with ur mom being the asian 1 When was the last time u saw an asian with hair loss issues?

[KgTomCat]

Become half asian with ur mom being the asian 1 When was the last time u saw an asian with hair loss issues?

true..too bad im american

[Tomahawk88]

Lol well its ok. Maybe try some Toco-8 by Primordial Performance. Could always try their TRS. $30 off right now. The Toco-8 is supposed to help with hair loss especially on cycle.

[mj34]

Even with the test your sex drive plummeted. I decided to give it a go. Im using both epi and tren during my trt phase. I have used tren ace and it didnt kill my sex drive but high doses of deca did. Just goes to show how we respond differently.

[UnrealMachine]

Even with the test your sex drive plummeted. I decided to give it a go. Im using both epi and tren during my trt phase. I have used tren ace and it didnt kill my sex drive but high doses of deca did. Just goes to show how we respond differently.

Very true. I didn't have any libido decreases on any of the other steroids I've tried, Tren was the only one.

Weird that deca would kill it more than tren for you. I have read about some crazy tren responders who can handle high doses and get a libido boost from it though.

[mj34]

Honestly, I didnt get any bad sides but a little insomnia and I always fear the dreaded tren cough which "knock on wood" I have gotten that yet. Yeah, I wouldnt say I got a libido increase from it but it really didnt impair my sex drive either. Deca at 500-600 though tended to really mess with it. When I had access to Proviron I would run it every cycle and I never had libido issues, in fact; I had an insane sex drive and it really controlled alll of my issues with bloat as well. Masteron works okay in these areas but it doesnt replace Proviron's insane libido boost. So, UMachine i'm really new to the whole DS and I have only ran Phera which I liked quite a bit as it increased my appetite in a similiar way that EQ does. However; as far as the Tren(19-nor) and Epistane goes what results do people normally get with it? I have heard many say that epi is comparable to winny or var and I have only been on a week so I cant make that call. I love winny and var in fact, when I ran them in conjunction at 50/50 my strength gains were like no other and I swear it was for me better than test susp and tren ace. I got my 405 bench for 3 reps which prior to this I was stuck at 365. Ok, what is an effective dose of the 19-nor tren to run? I hear all kinds of things from 90 all the way to 240 so I really dont know what to think? I appreciate your help bro. Thanks in advance!