Yeah, you are right, most do have a worst libido crash from Tren than with Deca. I forget to mention as part of my trt protocol I also use Deca year round at 150mgs every 10th day so I ran tren and deca with no problems but then again the deca dose was so low. I always run my test two times higher when using tren or deca. This also helps me with libido problems. I have found that if I dont run the test two times higher than I tend to run into libidio issues. Others only have to use 100mgs to 200mgs more of extra test.