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Tren and Left ventrical / heart

qwerty33

qwerty33

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does tren effect the left ventrical like Pplex does? Or is that unique to Pplex? Also how strong of an androgen is tren?

I know if effect blood pressue while one but does that mean it corresponds to thickenging of the left vent?

Im talking about the PH not the actually trenablone
 
All anabolic steroids have the capacity to initiate ventricular hypertrophy. Yes, VH will increase arterial blood pressure.
 
I am at he end of a SPAWN pulse. As of yesterday, I started feeling my heart beating. This morning, I woke up at 4:00 am noticing my heart was sore every time it pulses. I actually feel pain behind my sternum. Never fealt this b4. This is concerning me. Has anyone else experienced this soreness. Don't want to go to the Doc unless I have to. It's actually a soreness I feel behind mu sternum even when I take a deep breath.
 
could be related to stomach problems?

could be blood pressure related.

what does it feel like
 
google the method. what does the feeling feel like? does it go away if you drink a glass of milk?
 
luclyluciano said:
I am at he end of a SPAWN pulse. As of yesterday, I started feeling my heart beating. This morning, I woke up at 4:00 am noticing my heart was sore every time it pulses. I actually feel pain behind my sternum. Never fealt this b4. This is concerning me. Has anyone else experienced this soreness. Don't want to go to the Doc unless I have to. It's actually a soreness I feel behind mu sternum even when I take a deep breath.
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Its obviously not to concerning to you man! Anytime something is weird with your heart. . . You shouldn't **** around go to the doctor immediately it's pretty stupid not to go.
 
agreed, if my heart was hurting i would personally go to the ER and drop whatever I was on. this is your friggin life here man, don't F with it!
 
neverstop said:
agreed, if my heart was hurting i would personally go to the ER and drop whatever I was on. this is your friggin life here man, don't F with it!
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I agree, it dies concern me. That's why I posted at 5 am. I took 2 advil it's gotten much better. Mayo clinic says could be many things including viral. Had it persisted, I would had my ass in there in an ambulance. I just posted to see if anyone else experienced similar occurance!
 
qwerty33 said:
google the method. what does the feeling feel like? does it go away if you drink a glass of milk?
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Had milk this morning. 2 advils made go away. It felt like my heart was bruise and when it beat, it would feel little sore. Advil seems to have calmed it down quite a bit!
 
advil is just masking the problem, go to you doctor.. i always imagined us dosing these ph too high and that indefinitely effects the heart.
 
luclyluciano said:
Had milk this morning. 2 advils made go away. It felt like my heart was bruise and when it beat, it would feel little sore. Advil seems to have calmed it down quite a bit!
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This is a shot in the dark but do you have any problems with GERD(acid reflux)? I have had gerd so bad it made my chest hurt and I used to drink milk to relieve it since I mistakenly believed it to be a base, it is actually a slightly acidic almost neutral solution. I spoke with a Dr I work with and he told me that he has treated people with GERD who thought they were having a heart attack because it can mimic the signs & symptoms. Like I said that's a shot in the dark but I have experienced it personally.
 
BUCKNUTS said:
This is a shot in the dark but do you have any problems with GERD(acid reflux)? I have had gerd so bad it made my chest hurt and I used to drink milk to relieve it since I mistakenly believed it to be a base, it is actually a slightly acidic almost neutral solution. I spoke with a Dr I work with and he told me that he has treated people with GERD who thought they were having a heart attack because it can mimic the signs & symptoms. Like I said that's a shot in the dark but I have experienced it personally.
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What did the doctor tell you to do when this was happening? Mine said to take acid reducer, what does he recommend you take?
 
BUCKNUTS said:
This is a shot in the dark but do you have any problems with GERD(acid reflux)? I have had gerd so bad it made my chest hurt and I used to drink milk to relieve it since I mistakenly believed it to be a base, it is actually a slightly acidic almost neutral solution. I spoke with a Dr I work with and he told me that he has treated people with GERD who thought they were having a heart attack because it can mimic the signs & symptoms. Like I said that's a shot in the dark but I have experienced it personally.
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That's weird that you mention that because i am on my 1st Hdrol cycle and i constantly wake up early in the morning with what feels like my heart hurting... It has happened before in the past few years but over the past week or two it has been persistent. But ive also had acid reflux almost every single day... Idk much about all this but just throwin my own experience in there...
 
i get a similar feeling if i take certain supps. i dont think its my heart but i did run tren over the summer. I think its heart burn or stomach issues caused by my arsenal of staples.
 
I could be wrong but I don't think it's gerd or acid reflex. This seemed like my heart specifically or something very close proximity to the heart or touching my heart that was sore an hurt with each beat. It's too soon to tell but I am begining to think it is viral. Been one day but seems better today with no Advil. Yeterday my body ached like flu symptoms. This is the problem when on a roid, and you may run into a virus. You never know what's the cause!
 
PLGSXR750 said:
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What did the doctor tell you to do when this was happening? Mine said to take acid reducer, what does he recommend you take?
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He gave me a script for the GI c0cktail which is equal parts of Maalox, Donnatal, and Xylocaine and he ordered a PPI, Prevacid I think. The gi c0cktail works really well to relieve the symptoms, I didn't take the Prevacid I opted for a more natural option.
 
luclyluciano said:
I could be wrong but I don't think it's gerd or acid reflex. This seemed like my heart specifically or something very close proximity to the heart or touching my heart that was sore an hurt with each beat. It's too soon to tell but I am begining to think it is viral. Been one day but seems better today with no Advil. Yeterday my body ached like flu symptoms. This is the problem when on a roid, and you may run into a virus. You never know what's the cause!
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I would definitely go get checked out an ekg would only take a few minutes provided your Dr office has one in their facility, and it would give you peace of mind.
 
BUCKNUTS said:
This is a shot in the dark but do you have any problems with GERD(acid reflux)? I have had gerd so bad it made my chest hurt and I used to drink milk to relieve it since I mistakenly believed it to be a base, it is actually a slightly acidic almost neutral solution. I spoke with a Dr I work with and he told me that he has treated people with GERD who thought they were having a heart attack because it can mimic the signs & symptoms. Like I said that's a shot in the dark but I have experienced it personally.
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that's exactly what came to mind when i was reading the thread because i don't think you can feel heart pain so to speak unless it's during a heart attack.
 
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