FDA RAIDS...packages getting stoped from shipping
- 09-29-2009, 11:08 PM
FDA RAIDS...packages getting stoped from shipping
found this on another forum, i feel bad for this dude, but this is really freaking me out, cause i myself am waiting on a $100 package full of ph's.
"I ordered my stack of Iforce nutrition bold200/dymethazine on friday at 5pmET(1hr after shipping cutoff) for 2cycles plus liver supports and pcts, was supposed to show up today yet I got no doorbell ring. So I called the company I ordered from (veryyy reputable) and they told me the FDA raided almost 32 manufacturers of "prohormones" and ceased all outgoing shipments of any relative products 2 hours after my order. He told me my order was held up in the mess and the hearing was today. I just got a call back 5 hours later and the guy on the other line, sounding quite sad said: "Sorry man...looks like we're gonna have to credit you back. They shut down everything man...they even took novadex from gaspari, 75% of iforce, most PCT's, epistane, the works. It's going to be alot harder to get prohormones in the states now. This is a big day-most of what I just mentioned actually is classified as a class 1 steroid now. Unbelievable I know."
ha i swear that package better get to my door. they already took my money. There will be some serious H3ll Raiseing if it doesnt show.Eat Clean. Train Dirty.
- 09-29-2009, 11:12 PM
- 09-29-2009, 11:14 PM
09-29-2009, 11:18 PM
Time for a revolution gentlemen. Time to start over.
It's hard to concentrate when I can hear your thoughts.
09-29-2009, 11:19 PM
They haven't reclassified or scheduled anything yet... Some compounds are close to being scheduled but no laws have changed.
09-29-2009, 11:20 PM
09-29-2009, 11:23 PM
09-29-2009, 11:27 PM
09-29-2009, 11:31 PM
09-29-2009, 11:32 PM
Wow this is crazy. I'm waiting on some propadrol that should have already been in. If they did all that in the hearing we're probably close to another full out ban.
Can we even buy ph/ds online anymore now?
09-29-2009, 11:35 PM
When I hear BB.com was getting raided, I ordered from another place and I am getting a lot in on the 1st, already in UPS hands.
09-29-2009, 11:36 PM
But yes, you are right, according to them the laws don't need to change, they just need to enforce them.
09-30-2009, 12:39 AM
09-30-2009, 01:03 AM
09-30-2009, 01:08 AM
09-30-2009, 01:11 AM
09-30-2009, 01:20 AM
i agree zero but really if we want to make a difference it has to be from the inside. A revolution with us as the population revolting will do nothing more than cause us all to get arrested and it all attributed to ""roid rage". I know its probably worthless but i am hoping that the constant letters and bombardments on the issue when it arises will at least raise some eyebrows. I just cant see how some of these older men in congress arent on HRT already, some have to be. I do agree with u this does suck but really there isnt much we can do outside of the rules that would have any real benefit. Its a hard place to try and change the rules.
09-30-2009, 01:56 AM
09-30-2009, 02:36 AM
09-30-2009, 01:33 PM
09-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Actually, steroid users are a pretty hefty percentage of the population as it turns out. I've been researching for my paper on why steroids should be embraced by the professional sports community, and in doing so came across an interesting graph. Basically, they sent out a survey to a completely random sample of people, and 38% turned out to be steroid users and reported what they experienced. The experiences didn't shock me, but the 38% user-rate did.
09-30-2009, 04:08 PM
I cannot see how 38% of the people in the US are steroid users when there is such a SMALL % of bodybuilders in the US (hence we are the most obese nation in the world). However, I bet that those who use HRT said that they were on steroids. So in this sense it would be more clear. But that is interesting. It almost seems as if they selected people for the survey a little more carefully then "at random".
09-30-2009, 04:16 PM
09-30-2009, 04:22 PM
09-30-2009, 04:22 PM
Good idea government. The only outcome I can see of this is people turning to "harder" stuff. ****in' prohibition on PHs. Ridiculous.
09-30-2009, 04:29 PM
09-30-2009, 04:30 PM
09-30-2009, 04:48 PM
www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html Here is the DEA list
Each schedule contains different drugs based on their potency I believe. Also, each schedule has different guidelines for prison sentences if one is found producing, owning or distributing such substances.
I can try to find the differences in sentencing guidelines based on the schedules too.
09-30-2009, 04:58 PM
09-30-2009, 05:10 PM
09-30-2009, 05:27 PM
Drugs are scheduled based on their medical use and potential for abuse/addiction. Hence the higher the schedule, like Schedule I and II, the drug has less value in the medical field as far as use and more potential for abuse. Steroids (AAS) are Schedule III drugs due to the fact that they have legitimate medical uses. If you have a legit prescription your golden.
09-30-2009, 09:13 PM
09-30-2009, 09:23 PM
Here's the source that shows the 38% user-rate. Keep in mind, thats out of how many people actually filled out and returned the survey, so I'm not sure if that would skew the results much but here ya go.
^^If you don't have access to ebsco, do a google search for VCU Library website, get on their database search, and lookup "Anabolic Steroid Use" By Michael R. Graham
09-30-2009, 09:28 PM
09-30-2009, 09:40 PM
10-01-2009, 10:16 PM
Got ahsma? Your on roids! Thats where that stat comes from! Chronic sinus problems? same thing. The government wants you subservient. Not strong enough or diciplined enough to do for yourself.
If anything was confiscated before any law was passed you have grounds for a lawsuit! But good luck fighting the ghestapo! They will drag it out till you are dead. Who do you think signs the judges paychecks?
Wake up people, fight back! Speak your mind! Take a stand, or you'll be standing waiting for your public transportation, which is always late.
Challenge! Name one thing the Gov't does well. It must meet these criteria.
1. It is efficient.
2. It comes in on or under budget.
3. there is no tax increase.
4. It does not add to the gov't union payrole.
10-01-2009, 11:42 PM
10-01-2009, 11:46 PM
I'm certain steriods will be available to HRT and others who have a ligitmate use for them so I'm not sure your letters do much good. The reality is steriods are illegal and if these supps contain steriods then, well, it's pretty simple...they are illegal. So there is nothing more needed in terms of new laws.
10-02-2009, 12:08 AM
I mean i find this at least an attempt in the right direction. I dont see not saying anything or just assuming it will never change helping any reforms. I dont think my letters will do much good but may raise an eyebrow somewhere in the political ring. I dont see just not doing anything about it helping, if i try and fail thats fine i can live with that, i just persoanlly believe they should not be illegal.
10-02-2009, 05:38 AM
I got a "your product shipped our transaction is now complete" msg on Monday from an online store and the package still says "Electronic Shipping Info Recieved" which means they printed a label and never mailed it.
WTF are places doing, it's not like anything changed, just some old guy whined and everyone in power said "nah, we have more important stuff to do we can worry about phs later"
To anyone writing letters, no disrespect, but getting the government to give up power over anything isn't going to happen because of a few letters. It would take a widely perceptible social movement, which just won't happen. Because you are a CHEATER and you took the MAGIC MUSCLE JUICE. That's what probably 80+% of the population thinks and it's not getting any better as time passes. The sad fact is, if you make something illegal, anyone not involved assumes it's also immoral, never mind if they do something else illegal and think it's fine.
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