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    FDA RAIDS...packages getting stoped from shipping


    found this on another forum, i feel bad for this dude, but this is really freaking me out, cause i myself am waiting on a $100 package full of ph's.



    "I ordered my stack of Iforce nutrition bold200/dymethazine on friday at 5pmET(1hr after shipping cutoff) for 2cycles plus liver supports and pcts, was supposed to show up today yet I got no doorbell ring. So I called the company I ordered from (veryyy reputable) and they told me the FDA raided almost 32 manufacturers of "prohormones" and ceased all outgoing shipments of any relative products 2 hours after my order. He told me my order was held up in the mess and the hearing was today. I just got a call back 5 hours later and the guy on the other line, sounding quite sad said: "Sorry man...looks like we're gonna have to credit you back. They shut down everything man...they even took novadex from gaspari, 75% of iforce, most PCT's, epistane, the works. It's going to be alot harder to get prohormones in the states now. This is a big day-most of what I just mentioned actually is classified as a class 1 steroid now. Unbelievable I know."






    ha i swear that package better get to my door. they already took my money. There will be some serious H3ll Raiseing if it doesnt show.
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    Damn they really are shutting everything down and they are not even technically illegal yet. And Novadex? Wtf? All I can say is WOW.

    Quote Originally Posted by hard iron View Post
    found this on another forum, i feel bad for this dude, but this is really freaking me out, cause i myself am waiting on a $100 package full of ph's.



    "I ordered my stack of Iforce nutrition bold200/dymethazine on friday at 5pmET(1hr after shipping cutoff) for 2cycles plus liver supports and pcts, was supposed to show up today yet I got no doorbell ring. So I called the company I ordered from (veryyy reputable) and they told me the FDA raided almost 32 manufacturers of "prohormones" and ceased all outgoing shipments of any relative products 2 hours after my order. He told me my order was held up in the mess and the hearing was today. I just got a call back 5 hours later and the guy on the other line, sounding quite sad said: "Sorry man...looks like we're gonna have to credit you back. They shut down everything man...they even took novadex from gaspari, 75% of iforce, most PCT's, epistane, the works. It's going to be alot harder to get prohormones in the states now. This is a big day-most of what I just mentioned actually is classified as a class 1 steroid now. Unbelievable I know."






    ha i swear that package better get to my door. they already took my money. There will be some serious H3ll Raiseing if it doesnt show.
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    They haven't reclassified or scheduled anything yet... Some compounds are close to being scheduled but no laws have changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rckvl7 View Post
    They haven't reclassified or scheduled anything yet... Some compounds are close to being scheduled but no laws have changed.
    if you watched the senate today, apparently to them these have been illegal all along, never needed law changes... at least that is what I got out of it.
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    Wow this is crazy. I'm waiting on some propadrol that should have already been in. If they did all that in the hearing we're probably close to another full out ban.

    Can we even buy ph/ds online anymore now?
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    When I hear BB.com was getting raided, I ordered from another place and I am getting a lot in on the 1st, already in UPS hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    if you watched the senate today, apparently to them these have been illegal all along, never needed law changes... at least that is what I got out of it.
    Well if I understood it correctly I think there are only a couple that are currently scheduled, while three more are in the chute to be scheduled soon. The rest of are being sold illegaly but aren't actually scheduled.

    But yes, you are right, according to them the laws don't need to change, they just need to enforce them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVILADAMS View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero V View Post
    Mr. Insanity here waiting for the day...
    dont wait zero now is the time before it gets worse. I collected 500 letters that i have already delivered to my state representative (that jackass barney frank) telling him how much the general public is outraged about this ban. Now i am a personal trainer and have a lot of connections with people who use and advocate PH's. You need to stand up and tell the people elected where you stand and numbers are what counts. 500 might not be much right now but i will keep working on this. I have been collecting letters from HIV, Cancer, HRT patients, burn victims and MS patients explaining how steroids (AAS) have helped them recover/prolong their quality of life and how people who use recreationally dont end up addicted or physically hurt. I started this project a year ago but as of 2 months ago when bans where being talked about i have postponed that project to try and reach my state representative with some power/numbers. You have to make yourslf heard. I will continue my project on AAS legalization however this ban is the first order of buisness to try and help with PH's, which apparently it didnt have much if any effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker86 View Post
    dont wait zero now is the time before it gets worse. I collected 500 letters that i have already delivered to my state representative (that jackass barney frank) telling him how much the general public is outraged about this ban. Now i am a personal trainer and have a lot of connections with people who use and advocate PH's. You need to stand up and tell the people elected where you stand and numbers are what counts. 500 might not be much right now but i will keep working on this. I have been collecting letters from HIV, Cancer, HRT patients, burn victims and MS patients explaining how steroids (AAS) have helped them recover/prolong their quality of life and how people who use recreationally dont end up addicted or physically hurt. I started this project a year ago but as of 2 months ago when bans where being talked about i have postponed that project to try and reach my state representative with some power/numbers. You have to make yourslf heard. I will continue my project on AAS legalization however this ban is the first order of buisness to try and help with PH's, which apparently it didnt have much if any effect.
    I have done the letters, and made them as presentable and educated as possible for the state representative here...I dont think they give a crap anymore honestly. We are just something they brush aside.

    Steroid users are too small of a % of the population to be heard.
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    i agree zero but really if we want to make a difference it has to be from the inside. A revolution with us as the population revolting will do nothing more than cause us all to get arrested and it all attributed to ""roid rage". I know its probably worthless but i am hoping that the constant letters and bombardments on the issue when it arises will at least raise some eyebrows. I just cant see how some of these older men in congress arent on HRT already, some have to be. I do agree with u this does suck but really there isnt much we can do outside of the rules that would have any real benefit. Its a hard place to try and change the rules.
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    try this link it will send a letter to the local congressman about stopping the food bill.
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    will do
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    my 3 packages says they have already been shipped. Hopefully they'll get here today or tomorrow.
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    Actually, steroid users are a pretty hefty percentage of the population as it turns out. I've been researching for my paper on why steroids should be embraced by the professional sports community, and in doing so came across an interesting graph. Basically, they sent out a survey to a completely random sample of people, and 38% turned out to be steroid users and reported what they experienced. The experiences didn't shock me, but the 38% user-rate did.
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    I cannot see how 38% of the people in the US are steroid users when there is such a SMALL % of bodybuilders in the US (hence we are the most obese nation in the world). However, I bet that those who use HRT said that they were on steroids. So in this sense it would be more clear. But that is interesting. It almost seems as if they selected people for the survey a little more carefully then "at random".

    Quote Originally Posted by muller View Post
    Actually, steroid users are a pretty hefty percentage of the population as it turns out. I've been researching for my paper on why steroids should be embraced by the professional sports community, and in doing so came across an interesting graph. Basically, they sent out a survey to a completely random sample of people, and 38% turned out to be steroid users and reported what they experienced. The experiences didn't shock me, but the 38% user-rate did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muller View Post
    Actually, steroid users are a pretty hefty percentage of the population as it turns out. I've been researching for my paper on why steroids should be embraced by the professional sports community, and in doing so came across an interesting graph. Basically, they sent out a survey to a completely random sample of people, and 38% turned out to be steroid users and reported what they experienced. The experiences didn't shock me, but the 38% user-rate did.
    If you need resources or references let me know my research for college was not about sports acceptance but was close. just PM me. Good luck with the paper
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    Quote Originally Posted by juice3320 View Post
    I cannot see how 38% of the people in the US are steroid users when there is such a SMALL % of bodybuilders in the US (hence we are the most obese nation in the world). However, I bet that those who use HRT said that they were on steroids. So in this sense it would be more clear. But that is interesting. It almost seems as if they selected people for the survey a little more carefully then "at random".
    Usually the "users" are people that have used steroids, not necessarily people that currently use.

    If he would post the study that would be helpful.
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    Good idea government. The only outcome I can see of this is people turning to "harder" stuff. ****in' prohibition on PHs. Ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juice3320 View Post
    I cannot see how 38% of the people in the US are steroid users when there is such a SMALL % of bodybuilders in the US (hence we are the most obese nation in the world). However, I bet that those who use HRT said that they were on steroids. So in this sense it would be more clear. But that is interesting. It almost seems as if they selected people for the survey a little more carefully then "at random".
    I've met a lot of random college dudes that have used steroids and don't look like it at all, still weak and flabby.
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    I hear the term "scheduled 1 and Scheduled 2" being mentioned. What does this mean exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Manback View Post
    I hear the term "scheduled 1 and Scheduled 2" being mentioned. What does this mean exactly?
    www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html Here is the DEA list


    Each schedule contains different drugs based on their potency I believe. Also, each schedule has different guidelines for prison sentences if one is found producing, owning or distributing such substances.

    I can try to find the differences in sentencing guidelines based on the schedules too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8te View Post
    www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html Here is the DEA list


    Each schedule contains different drugs based on their potency I believe.
    IIRC, the different schedules refer to classifications based on application. Like something that has NO medical value and is highly addictive (meth) may be on a different schedule than something that HAS medical value and is highly addictive (oxycodone).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShakesAllDay View Post
    IIRC, the different schedules refer to classifications based on application. Like something that has NO medical value and is highly addictive (meth) may be on a different schedule than something that HAS medical value and is highly addictive (oxycodone).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act
    Thx for the clarification.
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    Drugs are scheduled based on their medical use and potential for abuse/addiction. Hence the higher the schedule, like Schedule I and II, the drug has less value in the medical field as far as use and more potential for abuse. Steroids (AAS) are Schedule III drugs due to the fact that they have legitimate medical uses. If you have a legit prescription your golden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker86 View Post
    dont wait zero now is the time before it gets worse. I collected 500 letters that i have already delivered to my state representative (that jackass barney frank) telling him how much the general public is outraged about this ban. Now i am a personal trainer and have a lot of connections with people who use and advocate PH's. You need to stand up and tell the people elected where you stand and numbers are what counts. 500 might not be much right now but i will keep working on this. I have been collecting letters from HIV, Cancer, HRT patients, burn victims and MS patients explaining how steroids (AAS) have helped them recover/prolong their quality of life and how people who use recreationally dont end up addicted or physically hurt. I started this project a year ago but as of 2 months ago when bans where being talked about i have postponed that project to try and reach my state representative with some power/numbers. You have to make yourslf heard. I will continue my project on AAS legalization however this ban is the first order of buisness to try and help with PH's, which apparently it didnt have much if any effect.
    ****ing good for you bro. Have you noticed how many people don't know what doctors use these drugs for? the public is so damn naive its amazing. People looked at me like I was crazy when I presented my 1.5-2yrs worth of research to the faculty and students in my major for final presentation at my university. You would have thought I had 4 heads or something. Keep it up.

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    Here's the source that shows the 38% user-rate. Keep in mind, thats out of how many people actually filled out and returned the survey, so I'm not sure if that would skew the results much but here ya go.

    http://search.ebscohost.com/login.as...ive&scope=site


    ^^If you don't have access to ebsco, do a google search for VCU Library website, get on their database search, and lookup "Anabolic Steroid Use" By Michael R. Graham
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8te View Post
    ****ing good for you bro. Have you noticed how many people don't know what doctors use these drugs for? the public is so damn naive its amazing. People looked at me like I was crazy when I presented my 1.5-2yrs worth of research to the faculty and students in my major for final presentation at my university. You would have thought I had 4 heads or something. Keep it up.

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    how true^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    if you watched the senate today, apparently to them these have been illegal all along, never needed law changes... at least that is what I got out of it.
    That makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker86 View Post
    dont wait zero now is the time before it gets worse. I collected 500 letters that i have already delivered to my state representative (that jackass barney frank) telling him how much the general public is outraged about this ban. Now i am a personal trainer and have a lot of connections with people who use and advocate PH's. You need to stand up and tell the people elected where you stand and numbers are what counts. 500 might not be much right now but i will keep working on this. I have been collecting letters from HIV, Cancer, HRT patients, burn victims and MS patients explaining how steroids (AAS) have helped them recover/prolong their quality of life and how people who use recreationally dont end up addicted or physically hurt. I started this project a year ago but as of 2 months ago when bans where being talked about i have postponed that project to try and reach my state representative with some power/numbers. You have to make yourslf heard. I will continue my project on AAS legalization however this ban is the first order of buisness to try and help with PH's, which apparently it didnt have much if any effect.

    I'm certain steriods will be available to HRT and others who have a ligitmate use for them so I'm not sure your letters do much good. The reality is steriods are illegal and if these supps contain steriods then, well, it's pretty simple...they are illegal. So there is nothing more needed in terms of new laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester M3 View Post
    I'm certain steriods will be available to HRT and others who have a ligitmate use for them so I'm not sure your letters do much good. The reality is steriods are illegal and if these supps contain steriods then, well, it's pretty simple...they are illegal. So there is nothing more needed in terms of new laws.
    Well they are technically in a loophole as of right now until they change the laws, which they already have at this point. The letters are to try and get all steroids legal at some point and in some cases recognition for the good that they do. I mean a lot of the letters just give opinion and facts. I understand some people think they will never be legal and so forth i suppose if thats ur stance thats fine however maybe some education and understanding about them rules may change. I honestly rather do it legally than illegally and i rather have people understand their effects rather than just assuming everything bad about them with little to no scientific evidence.

    I mean i find this at least an attempt in the right direction. I dont see not saying anything or just assuming it will never change helping any reforms. I dont think my letters will do much good but may raise an eyebrow somewhere in the political ring. I dont see just not doing anything about it helping, if i try and fail thats fine i can live with that, i just persoanlly believe they should not be illegal.
  40. dpfisher
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    I got a "your product shipped our transaction is now complete" msg on Monday from an online store and the package still says "Electronic Shipping Info Recieved" which means they printed a label and never mailed it.

    WTF are places doing, it's not like anything changed, just some old guy whined and everyone in power said "nah, we have more important stuff to do we can worry about phs later"

    To anyone writing letters, no disrespect, but getting the government to give up power over anything isn't going to happen because of a few letters. It would take a widely perceptible social movement, which just won't happen. Because you are a CHEATER and you took the MAGIC MUSCLE JUICE. That's what probably 80+% of the population thinks and it's not getting any better as time passes. The sad fact is, if you make something illegal, anyone not involved assumes it's also immoral, never mind if they do something else illegal and think it's fine.
  

  
 

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