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Old 09-21-2009, 10:40 PM  
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14 yr old cousin takin mdrol! help!


my 14 yr old cousin took mdrol last december with no PCT and is taking it in a few weeks from today. myself and texaslifter89 have told him everything about roids. he thinks the only way to get big is juice and he is losing weight now cause he is in football. he is about 6ft and weight 169 in the summer, not he is at 155. i dont wanna get replies about his balls will shrink, no crap. i need real examples and hardcore facts. i will show him this thread. his answer for everything is, nobody has died from juice but what he doesnt get is we dontknow that cause juice leaves ur system in a year or two so drs dont know what affect it had on ur heart and his age with HRT possibility. just please leave good comments. i appreciate it
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Explain the all the negatives, the health problems, sides. If he still wants to take mdrol talk to his parents
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wow...dude 14?
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hows his brain function? Lots of previous concussions?
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Sounds like someone needs to explain to him how to train and eat more as well. Who the hell talks to a 14 year old about steroids anyway?
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take that **** away from him are u kidding??? Tell parents do something man its not his choice hes too young to make an informed decision. Show him pics of gyno. PCT or not hes going to be ****ed up for life.
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tell his parents, its that simple.
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tell his parents, its that simple.
Also coach and proper authorities if need be...I mean it may suck for him, but it is so much better and he will thank you in the long run.
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No PCT, hmmm.....Does he want gyno?





Study from pubmed:

Severe Cholestasis and Renal Failure Associated with the Use of the Designer Steroid Superdrol™ (Methasteron™): A Case Report and Literature Review

superdrol= Mdrol





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another study via pubmed:

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Methasteron-Associated Cholestatic Liver Injury: Clinicopathologic Findings in 5 Cases

Background & Aims: Methasteron is a nutritional supplement used to increase weight or accelerate the build-up of muscle mass. The aim of this study was to describe 5 cases of hepatotoxicity in patients using methasteron seen at tertiary-care medical centers. Methods: A case report design was used. Results: Five previously healthy patients who used methasteron developed jaundice 2 weeks after discontinuation; they presented to a tertiary-care medical center 2 weeks later. Within another 2 to 3 weeks, bilirubin levels peaked. About 12 weeks after initial presentation, all cases resolved with no identifiable residual hepatic dysfunction. Conclusions: Methasteron use can result in severe hepatotoxicity. Liver failure can worsen after initial presentation, especially within 2 weeks. With close observation and supportive care, acute hepatic injury should resolve.


Volume 6, Issue 2, Pages 255-258 (February 2008)
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The American Journal of Gastroenterology (2006) 101, 2659–2662; doi:10.1111/j.1572-0241.2006.00735.x

Cholestatic Jaundice and IgA Nephropathy Induced by OTC Muscle Building Agent Superdrol

Beata Jasiurkowski MD, Jaya Raj MD, David Wisinger MD, Richard Carlson MD, Lixian Zou MD and Abdul Nadir MD

Maricopa Medical Center, Phoenix, Arizona

Correspondence: Abdul Nadir, Chief of Gastroenterology, Maricopa Medical Center, 2601 E. Roosevelt Street, Phoenix, AZ 85022.

Received 5 April 2006; Accepted 17 April 2006.
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Over the counter (OTC) medicines are commonly used in the United States despite a lack of scientific evidence for clinical utility and toxicity associated with their use. A case of jaundice and IgA nephropathy as a consequence of use of a muscle enhancing OTC supplement that was advertised as innocuous with no hormonal activity is described. IgA nephropathy has not been described previously in association with the use of testosterone. The case highlights that, besides adulteration, the misrepresentation of chemicals present in OTC medications and supplements can create confusion and a false sense of security with their use.
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just smack him around the head a few times.... what a douche i wouldn't even bother reasoning with the little prick... tell him you'll kick his ass if he does it... it's dumbasses like and who ever gave it to him which get these products banned. sorry but hearing about these scenarios just makes me angry
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I understand the pressures of todays Teen. Gotta be big to make the team or get the girl. or avoid gettin slapped around in the hallway. Its too easy. Go online and order a bottle.

If hes that hardheaded and wont listen to all the cons, then darwinism and selective evolution shall take care of it. Stupid people sterilizing themselves so they cant breed is pretty much poetry in motion.

Lead that horse to water. If he refuses to drink, well......
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I understand the pressures of todays Teen. Gotta be big to make the team or get the girl. or avoid gettin slapped around in the hallway. Its too easy. Go online and order a bottle.

If hes that hardheaded and wont listen to all the cons, then darwinism and selective evolution shall take care of it. Stupid people sterilizing themselves so they cant breed is pretty much poetry in motion.

Lead that horse to water. If he refuses to drink, well......
couldn't of said it better myself!
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I guess you could just hope that he got ahold of some Lot 52897.

LOL.
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Wait, Texaslifter was using while he was a teen, so isn't that somewhat hypercritical?
There's nothing you can do. A kid will find a way to use it, and then justify it with misinformed reasons. Tell his folks and walk away.
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Tell him the negs, (his grow will stunt, his hormones will be f up ireversible) and than offer him an alternative: you will check his training and eating habbits and give him some Whey or somethink else, which will not kill his health but do a lilte motivation push.
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his answer for everything is, nobody has died from juice
Unless hes injecting hes misinformed about juice and designer steroids.
So to defend himself at 14 by saying no one has died by juice, inform
him hes not on "juice" but a more TOXIC less helpful prohormone.

Also remind him hes 14, and it clearly states on the bottle not intended
for anyone under 21, thats a 7 year difference, not 2 or 3. He hasnt
even stopped growing naturally.

Good luck to him man, he might get a little size for a couple months, but
down the road his liver will be gone, and his d1ck will most likely be introverted
if not turned into a vagina with all that estrogen rebound
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Jus the kind of story the fda needs to push in there final nail.
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He growth plates havent fused yet, his body hasnt event finished puberty, great chance he will probably never have full function....if he hasnt had sex yet, tell him he can kiss that dream goodbye when he cant get an erection..

wow worst thing ive ever heard on these forums...14!! wow...i dont think he understands, his natural testosterone at 14 probably hasnt even really kicked in yet??

at 14 you cant expect to be superman it takes some time and dedication...training and diet get you big...

wow...im just scared for him and i dont even know who he is....i feel for you bro, if my cousin or brothers did that i dont know what i would, but u def gotta tell his parents i dont think he understands that hes about to ruin the rest of his life ....
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also if he wants to grow....and wonders why he dropped weight...just wait till after another cyle his body wont make anymore testosterone, so he can keep complaining about not growing because he wont be making any test natural...

TRT(testosterone replacement therapy) for life starting at 14....wow, is that even possible??
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A high Test level start puberty and end its the same way. If this can happen with mdrol, too, tell him his secondary sexual characteristics will stop growing. (babyface, liltle ****, no hair at all for ever!). If this don't stops him from taking it, buy him a nice skirt.
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I hope the OP is joking here. Taking steroids at 14 will likely PERMANENTLY diminish (or completely shut down) testosterone production. That means that for the rest of his life he will:

1. Need to be on hormone therapy
2. Have unbalanced estrogen levels (very very very bad)
3. Be weaker, gain more fat (especially around the midsection and behind nipples)
4. Small testicles
5. Possible stunted growth
6. UNABLE TO HAVE CHILDREN! (He may not want kids now, but this is a very big one. Many women will never want to have a relationship with an infertile man)
7. Impotence (you want to take Viagria the rest of your life?)


There's more but I'm tired of typing. Take his steroids away (and YES SUPERDROL IS A F****** STEROID).
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no, texaslifter and myself explained to him everything about mdrol. ive told him about hrt, sterility, stunted growth and more. he doesnt care. he wants to be bigger than ronnie coleman and to be that big he thinks he has to start now. stupid kid. doesnt help his 24 yr old cousin is juiced out and sells it. i told his mom a while ago to blood test him so he knows u will test him but she hasnt.. should i just tell his mom whats going on? i love my cousin and i dont want him to get in trouble but i dont want him to **** up his life. he knows everything cause i have told him. i feel like its my responsibility because i know about it and i can stop it but i dont know how
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no, texaslifter and myself explained to him everything about mdrol. ive told him about hrt, sterility, stunted growth and more. he doesnt care. he wants to be bigger than ronnie coleman and to be that big he thinks he has to start now. stupid kid. doesnt help his 24 yr old cousin is juiced out and sells it. i told his mom a while ago to blood test him so he knows u will test him but she hasnt.. should i just tell his mom whats going on? i love my cousin and i dont want him to get in trouble but i dont want him to **** up his life. he knows everything cause i have told him. i feel like its my responsibility because i know about it and i can stop it but i dont know how
yes tell his mother. he will come back and blame u and texas to try to get yall in trouble as well so think out what ur response will be.

he will say he hates yall forever now, but he'll be thankful down the road.
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i would make sure he doesnt know i told his mom. ima just tell his mom i know matt wants to do mdrol when he gets money so test him now so he gets scared and doesnt take it??
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i would make sure he doesnt know i told his mom. ima just tell his mom i know matt wants to do mdrol when he gets money so test him now so he gets scared and doesnt take it??
u need her to know that ALL U KNOW is that he wants to take a known steroid called M-drol so he can get bigger....his mother should have the common sense to Google "m-drol" and handle the situation from there. she can also pic up a steroid test from a walgreens or cvs...while i dont believe it tests for many steroids, it can still be used as a scare-tactic
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i told her that last summer cause he was talking about it and she hasnt done anything so should i do it again?
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let her read this post.....

tell her everything that m-drol will do to her son and i think she better do something asap...
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so what happened when he took it in December? Did he get any nasty sides?

Dob him into the coach and he wont be playing.Threaten him with something he wants, which is football. At 155 he should be playing soccer anyway.
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