Sust + EQ lean gain 10 weeks cycle

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    Sust + EQ lean gain 10 weeks cycle


    Hi there,


    im thinking of doing my first inyectable cycle.(previous ph cycles)

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    26 years old , six training.

    5'10" & 185 lbs, body fat around 11-9 %


    TARGET: gain lean mass!!


    week 1-2 : kickstart Sustanon 500mg + 500 EQ
    week 3-10: Sustanon 250mg + 500 EQ


    In addition: 10mg nolva and 25 mg proviron ED, from week 1 to 12.

    week 13,this PCT:

    40mg Nolvadex for 2 weeks and then 20mg for 1-2 more weeks.

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    what do you think about pct? I prefeer nolva only but maybe Ill add Clomid. any other suggestions? thanks in advance

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    Well, this is a very basic beginners cycle, not what I would call an ideal cut cycle. Any cycle can be a cut cycle as your diet will be the denominator but there are some AAS that actually help take the fat off like Tren, winn, etc. I would say you will puff up no matter what you eat but should not get fat if you keep your diet right.
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    well, what do you think about postcycle with nolva only ??
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    EQ for 8 weeks is a waste. The ester is so long and takes well over a month to kick-in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    EQ for 8 weeks is a waste. The ester is so long and takes well over a month to kick-in.

    10 weeks!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gino333 View Post
    10 weeks!!
    EQ is a 14-16 week steroid. Also, cruising on 250mg of Sustanon is really low.
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    ok, and 12 weeks?

    week 1-12 : Sustanon 500mg + 500 EQ + arimidex(0.25 EOD)


    week 15, PCT:

    40mg Nolvadex for 2 weeks and then 20mg for 2 more weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gino333 View Post
    ok, and 12 weeks?

    week 1-12 : Sustanon 500mg + 500 EQ + arimidex(0.25 EOD)


    week 15, PCT:

    40mg Nolvadex for 2 weeks and then 20mg for 2 more weeks.
    You'll want to run test at least 1 week longer than EQ.
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    ok.

    what do you think about pct with only nolva?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gino333 View Post
    ok.

    what do you think about pct with only nolva?
    It might kill the libido (this is very subjective), but it'll be an adequate PCT. I would add in some sort of test booster personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You'll want to run test at least 1 week longer than EQ.
    i beg to differ, EQ is very mild and can be run the same length as ur test
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    i beg to differ, EQ is very mild and can be run the same length as ur test
    I wasn't speaking of the strength; I was referring to the difference in ester T 1/2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I wasn't speaking of the strength; I was referring to the difference in ester T 1/2.
    true. but i still consider EQ as the only injectable one can run without test as a base and manage to stay clear of sides
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    true. but i still consider EQ as the only injectable one can run without test as a base and manage to stay clear of sides
    It's very similar to a mild test.
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    you want to run sust at 500mg MINIMUM, and 10+ week is also minimum, i would probably start the first 4-5 weeks with some oral too, and i wouldn't run PCT with nolva, clomid is more effective in my experience. also, i see no reason NOT to run HCG for cycles 4+ weeks since its so cheap.
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    HCG 500ui E5D, since week 3 to the end ?
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    personally i recommend you to just run test e or test c for your first cycle at 500mgs a week, but then i again i started with test cyp and eq for my first....

    if you gonna run sust you should run it at 500mgs split twice a week to 250mgs shots because of the short estered tests in it..dont run eq less then 12 weeks it kicks in by around week 8 from my personal expierence.

    eq stays in the system 21 days as test will stay 18 so your last eq shot should be 3 days to a week before your sust.

    i would definately add clomid to you pct as well

    nolva 40/40/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50


    you dont need to run the nolva everyday unless your gyno prone...i run adex throughout cycle at .25mg ed, but im gyno prone and i like a little less bloat.

    hope that helps..

    better safe then sorry....add a t
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    Quote Originally Posted by lextronics View Post
    personally i recommend you to just run test e or test c for your first cycle at 500mgs a week, but then i again i started with test cyp and eq for my first....

    if you gonna run sust you should run it at 500mgs split twice a week to 250mgs shots because of the short estered tests in it..dont run eq less then 12 weeks it kicks in by around week 8 from my personal expierence.

    eq stays in the system 21 days as test will stay 18 so your last eq shot should be 3 days to a week before your sust.

    i would definately add clomid to you pct as well

    nolva 40/40/20/20
    clomid 100/50/50/50


    you dont need to run the nolva everyday unless your gyno prone...i run adex throughout cycle at .25mg ed, but im gyno prone and i like a little less bloat.

    hope that helps..

    better safe then sorry....add a t

    thnks bros.

    But I prefeer nolva+provi for gyno issues, because arimidex is too expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gino333 View Post
    thnks bros.

    But I prefeer nolva+provi for gyno issues, because arimidex is too expensive.
    nolva and prov are good too...uneccessary to run both unless you get gyno symptoms like sore nips, then throw in the nolva itll clear up in afew days..

    yeah arimedex isnt too cheap

    good luck on your cycle..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gino333 View Post
    HCG 500ui E5D, since week 3 to the end ?
    i prefer to run HCG at much lower dose and more often, trying to mimic my natural LH a little more closely, current cycle i'm running 150iu of HCG every other day.
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    do 400mg sust and 600mg of EQ for 14 weeks, start taking HCG during week 8 and stop 2 weeks before PCT, something like that yea??
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    since its a first cycle id keep it at 12 weeks no more...
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