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[jherman08]

Now you're claiming to take in 10,000 calories and not gain?

I was using hypothetical numbers other than the 6000 just
to get my point across. But yea, definitely gonna log all my **** to a T now
just to ensure my genetic potential is maxed before i take the easy way out

[jherman08]

Good info 17amethyl

[17amethyl]

im not sure what your stats are, but just from your default pic alone, you look like you have a great build already...if you can keep your bf near to what you have it at now, and slap on some lean lbs over the course of the next few months, you'll look far more f'n ridiculous than your average saucer who gains 20lbs of mostly bloat on a cycle and then after cutting to a reasonable bf, has little to show

i remember you asking about what other supps are available to take: from my experience you could try using these natty test boosters which always helped me put on some very promising and permanent size gains: activate xtreme, mass fx, anadraulic state

[jherman08]

i remember you asking about what other supps are available to take: from my experience you could try using these natty test boosters which always helped me put on some very promising and permanent size gains: activate xtreme, mass fx, anadraulic state

That was the Op.
But yea, definitely gonna get some creatine mono and gluconate
during this labor day sale.

Have a bottle of DTH i guess i can run along side protein and creatine
now that i dont need it for pct.

[Tomahawk88]

Ya good to hear herman.

And my reason is I wish I could go back and would have waited longer till I had my 1st cycle. And trust me I was bigger than u were. I was about 5'6" 185lbs.

When/if u decide to do a cycle down the road def log it and let us all know so we can sub and follow it.

[nparisi]

I have to say I don't think 500g of pro is necessary for someone weighing 165. I doubt the body is going to process all of that. I would say get more consistent on what you eat daily. Have a base daily diet that you deviate from every couple days for a meal or two just to stay consistent within the same calorie range and avoid getting disgustingly bored w/ food.
Try adding 6-10 eggs per day, I noticed a difference consistently doing that for a little and changing not much else. Also good suggestion w/ the pb, eat it up. Look for "naturally more" it's great, it's got extra protein, flax seeds and tastes great(a honey/pb taste)
Good luck

[jherman08]

Ya good to hear herman.

And my reason is I wish I could go back and would have waited longer till I had my 1st cycle. And trust me I was bigger than u were. I was about 5'6" 185lbs.

When/if u decide to do a cycle down the road def log it and let us all know so we can sub and follow it.

Will do so probably in the next 6-8 months
if i can get my training down and eating down pat.
As stated before in this thread, unhealthy eating on
cycle could very well be a nightmare.

Thanks again everyone, i was literally starting my H-drol cycle
next month and was dead set on it. I even have the entire cycle
except for the clomiphene. Great advice guys.