Can I do slin on pct?
- 02-14-2004, 05:04 PM
Can I do slin on pct?
Can I do slin on pct? Will it help me keep the gains I have? Say I start 40mg nolva ed and 5iu humulinR and when I drop to 20 mg nolva the following week bump my slin to 7iu and see how it feels and for my final week of pct at 10mg of nolva bump the slin to 8 or 9 iu.
I incorperated slin for a month a few years back and have not used since. I got some really good gains off of it so I was thinking it might work. My body weight it 175 at around 10% bf.
- 02-14-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally Posted by friction515
Last edited by serengo; 02-14-2004 at 09:39 PM.
- 02-14-2004, 10:27 PM
insulin helps post cycle lh recovery too :
Insulin enhancement of luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone release by cultured pituitary cells.
Adashi EY, Hsueh AJ, Yen SS.
The role of insulin in the regulation of basal and gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH)-stimulated release of LH and FSH was investigated in vitro using primary cultures of rat anterior pituitary cells from adult ovariectomized rats. Anterior pituitary cells were incubated for 2 days in the presence or absence of insulin in a serum-free medium. At the end of the insulin treatment, the cells were washed and reincubated in the presence or absence of GnRH, and the LH and FSH released into the medium were measured by RIA. Treatment with insulin (1.0 microgram/ml) for 2 days resulted in significant increases in both the basal and the maximal release of LH and FSH, as well as a 3.2- and 6.3-fold decrease in the ED50 values for GnRH in terms of LH and FSH release, respectively. Treatment with increasing concentrations (0.1-10,000 ng/ml) of insulin, led to a dose-dependent increase in the GnRH (3 X 10(-10) M)-stimulated release of both LH and FSH. This effect of insulin was significant (P less than 0.05) at a physiological concentration of 1 ng/ml (24 microU/ml) with an ED50 value of 40 ng/ml. Increasing duration of exposure to insulin resulted in time-dependent increases in the GnRH (3 X 10(-10) M)-stimulated release of LH, becoming significant at 24 h with maximal enhancement observed by 48 h. The effect of insulin was specific; epidermal or fibroblast growth factor did not enhance LH release. The augmenting effect of insulin was not associated with cellular proliferation or an overall change in protein or LH synthesis. Furthermore, the effect of insulin was independent of the ambient glucose concentration. Insulin was, however, without effect on gonadotrophs cultured in a serum-supplemented medium. Our findings suggest that the gonadotroph constitutes a target cell of insulin and that insulin may act directly on the anterior pituitary in the regulation of gonadotropin release.
PMID: 6781875 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
but going hypo seems to be harmful for us here :
J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2001 Oct;86(10):4913-9 Related Articles, Links
Hypoglycemia, but not insulin, acutely decreases LH and T secretion in men.
Oltmanns KM, Fruehwald-Schultes B, Kern W, Born J, Fehm HL, Peters A.
Department of Internal Medicine I, Medical University of Luebeck, D-23538 Luebeck, Germany.
02-15-2004, 09:40 AM
Thanks for that info Bro! I've noticed a difference this cycle using the slin near the end of PCT. I had attributed it all to the fact that I used EQ vs Deca this go around, but some of it is probably the slin.Originally Posted by raybravo
02-15-2004, 04:48 PM
02-16-2004, 05:29 PM
02-17-2004, 12:17 AM
I am seeing gains, however I need to qualify that my cycle ended up becoming a cutting cycle. I had no idea how hard the tren was going to hit me. I did not gain one ounce once I started it. I'm not complaining, in every way I made great gains on the cycle, strength, muscle density and hardened apperarance, overall quality. Size increased in some areas such as pecs, but overall weight went DOWN. It stopped my mass gains. I will only use tren in a cutting cycle in the future. Anyway, I am using the slin and trying to keep the fat off with strict control of my pre/post workout fat/carb/protein intake. As close to 0 fat intake before and after slin. I eat a good lowfat high protein, complex carb meal two-three hours before. post workout shake with the slin. carb/protein/nofat snack 1 hour post slin and another at the two hour mark. You'll have to let your body tell you what you need, so the first few times keep some carbs around until you get the hang of it. A good source of carbs to keep in your gym bag is Smarties(tm) candy. 1 roll = 7 grams dextrose. Also you can find candy necklaces made from dextrose/maltodextrin/and dextrin mix. You can use these to adjust your carbs till you figure out how many you need and set up your meals.Originally Posted by friction515
IF YOU ARE USING SLIN YOU MUST CARRY GLUCOSE TABS, JUST LIKE A DIABETIC. IF YOU GET HIT HARD WITH HYPO, USE IT.
Last edited by serengo; 02-17-2004 at 01:12 AM.
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