Prohormone use and trying to have kids?
- 02-12-2004, 12:44 PM
Prohormone use and trying to have kids?
Ok, this is my first post here and Im suer you guys can answer this one. Im a 32 year old male who's wife wants to start "trying" this summer. Im considering a MAG10 cycle and after a few weeks a Dermabolics S1+ cycle followed by 6-oxo. My impression is the 6-oxo will get the soldiers up and running again.
Basically, how long after a Prohormone cycle are you good to try and have kids?
Can I use 6-oxo while trying, like I would use it post cycle, wait a month and use again...
- 02-12-2004, 01:26 PM
Look big picture.
<standing on soap box>
I personally would delay PH use until after your wife becomes pregnant. What is 6 months of making "regular gains" compared with that feeling in the back of your mind, "how could the PH/PCT meds in my system/recently in my system effect my future child?"
<stepping off of soap box>
02-12-2004, 01:46 PM
So maybe I should just not even use at all your saying? I didnt take into account birth defects. I was just thinking of actually having it affect conception.
Its feb, maybe I'll just do the Mag10 since I already bought it and its a 2 week thing. We are talking about July, what do you guys think?
02-12-2004, 01:52 PM
Im with mark on this one
O/T Try and return the mag 10 and go with the S1+. Better product and much much cheaper
02-12-2004, 01:53 PM
In my opinion, you should forget about doing anything until after your wife is pregnant. PHs affect your endocrine system, your liver, your heart, your prostate, and heaven knows what else. There is no way of telling for sure what problems may occur, so it is best to avoid products like this altogether.Originally Posted by jhferry3
02-12-2004, 01:57 PM
Do as you have planned. Don't worry. Studdies using androgens to reduce sperm count have shown it takes months for it to take effect. I have run many cycles before and during having kids. I now have 2 beutiful children. I would say just use your head and use propper PCT and you should have no problem. Mabey make sure you are off for a month or 2 before you try. Good luck.Originally Posted by jhferry3
02-12-2004, 02:13 PM
Are you saying months of continued use can reduce sperm count? Or are you saying that any PH use will at some point catch up with my sperm count?Originally Posted by Lean One
Not sure If I put that right. Its a shame they dont sell sperm meters at like walgreens or something
02-12-2004, 02:41 PM
02-12-2004, 02:53 PM
Thats is interesting If not scary. I have tribex/M so I would be looking at 2 weeks mag10 then 3-4 weeks pct. Giving me about 4 months to recover. Still...
02-12-2004, 03:04 PM
02-12-2004, 03:23 PM
I am saying neither. There was a time when I asked the same question on a similar board. A person with much vaster knowledge than me responded with that answer. I believe the studdies used nandrolone. If you are smart about your cycling, you should have no problems.Have you ever heard any stories of guys that couldnt have kids because of their steroid use? Many a pro bodybuilder have fathered kids. I doubt you will take anywhere near the amount of jiuce they take. If you don't like my answer then don't use.Originally Posted by jhferry3
02-12-2004, 03:34 PM
Thanks, for all the responses. I understand what everyone is saying. I guess the basic message here is there is no real answer other than my own judgement. I've used Mag10 before, its not that strong. Im still going to think hard about this but the S1+ cycle is definetly off for now.
02-12-2004, 04:00 PM
02-12-2004, 04:25 PM
02-12-2004, 04:38 PM
That's right, isn't clomid a female fertility drug? and you could take some alcar, I think it increases sperm motility. Anyway, it probably wouldn't be a big deal to use ph, but I agree with Mark, I wouldn't want in the back of my mind should any problems arise. Good luck whatever you choose!Originally Posted by Jarconis
02-12-2004, 05:17 PM
Probably wise to hold of until conception.
The grossly oversimplified explanation...
The mode by sperm count is reduce is presumabley that of leveling off of natural test. One form of male birth control uses regular test injections to plateau the natural monthly rise and fall of test which in turn signals the testes to produce sperm. Once the testes stop recieving signals from the rise and fall in test levels they quit producing sperm cells until a lowering of test levels is detected.
The negative feedback cause by androgen use would mimic this same birth control method and leave you shooting blanks while on cycle.
You could of course do your cycle thus allowing you to "try" longer
02-12-2004, 05:48 PM
Im not even gonna post what Im thinking, You guys will really think im a dick then.Originally Posted by Jarconis
Just make sure you got an aim like a sniper. Hitting the wrong target could have drastic outcomes.
02-12-2004, 07:35 PM
02-13-2004, 11:56 AM
Come to think of it, I guess I can stil get some 6-oxo and use that, wouldnt do any harm. Maybe some Tribex as well. Just not anything that shuts the nads off.
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