no methyl, no tren

[wastchak]

Looking for a good PH that isnt methyl and isnt a tren product. Dont want to run a methyl product for obvious reasons and tren just aint my thing. Anyway anyone got any good suggestions. Are these andro 1 n 4 products anygood nowadays? I took the oldschool andro and was great.

 

[rob561]

PP 1-T

 

[lennoxchi]

PP 1-T

ugh, that's tren bro

 

[henryhavoc]

Might wanna go with a bold product, it's non methyl.

 

[Zero V]

ugh, that's tren bro

No its not.

PP 1-T Tren is tren, PP 1-T is not... correct?

 

[henryhavoc]

I think zero's right ;-)

 

[Silver3CSRT8]

Check out 1-ANDRO Rx by Iron Mag Labs. I was following a good log that you can search for where there were great gains and low sides.

 

[UnrealMachine]

PP has 1-T, and 1-T Tren. The first is an andro.

1-T would work, i think it is costly for the results though.

Your other options include Furazadrol, Winztrol, 1,4ad, propadrol... Revolt but that's a progestin like tren.

 

[wastchak]

PP has 1-T, and 1-T Tren. The first is an andro.

1-T would work, i think it is costly for the results though.

Your other options include Furazadrol, Winztrol, 1,4ad, propadrol... Revolt but that's a progestin like tren.

thanks i think im gonna try the winztrol or the 1,4 bold.

 

[UnrealMachine]

seriously you might want to stack them

like this:
bold 800mg for weeks 1-8
winztrol 250mg for weeks 4-8

As you can see... the problem with nonmethyls is you need a lot of bottles. This stack is like what... 4 bold bottles, 2 winztrol/clone bottles (assuming its 50mg per pill otherwise its 4 bottles)

I used a bottle of Zol in my first cycle and i didn't even notice it until I hit 250-300mg and all i got was a kind of tightening in my muscles. My weight didn't budge and neither did my strength. Realized I would need so many bottles and a lot of time to make the compound effective. Decided it wasn't worth it.

 

[wastchak]

seriously you might want to stack them

like this:
bold 800mg for weeks 1-8
winztrol 250mg for weeks 4-8

As you can see... the problem with nonmethyls is you need a lot of bottles. This stack is like what... 4 bold bottles, 2 winztrol/clone bottles (assuming its 50mg per pill otherwise its 4 bottles)

I used a bottle of Zol in my first cycle and i didn't even notice it until I hit 250-300mg and all i got was a kind of tightening in my muscles. My weight didn't budge and neither did my strength. Realized I would need so many bottles and a lot of time to make the compound effective. Decided it wasn't worth it.

yeah I noticed the more bottle thing. Thanks for the advice on the stacking though. One more question for you, do you know the typical sides from the bold and winztrol?

 

[kjkriston]

I can personally attest for the 1-Andro rx. Even @ 600mg / day it gave me awesome strength and endurance. Run it @ 800mgs or higher and you'll gain a lot of lean mass and strength with NO sides. Check out the log in my sig if your interested.

 

[kjkriston]

yeah I noticed the more bottle thing. Thanks for the advice on the stacking though. One more question for you, do you know the typical sides from the bold and winztrol?

I know that personally the sides from Winstrol was dry joints with elbow pain. I liked furaz much much better.

 

[wastchak]

I know that personally the sides from Winstrol was dry joints with elbow pain. I liked furaz much much better.

yeah alright sounds good, maybe ill check out the 1 andro rx instead. The job i have i cant have dry joints as i lift **** all day long and do alot of walking. So the extra strenght and endurance from the 1 andro would be awesome!!!

 

[Zero V]

yeah alright sounds good, maybe ill check out the 1 andro rx instead. The job i have i cant have dry joints as i lift **** all day long and do alot of walking. So the extra strenght and endurance from the 1 andro would be awesome!!!

If your worried about joints I find cissus/fish oil work like magic.

 

[lennoxchi]

No its not.

PP 1-T Tren is tren, PP 1-T is not... correct?

you're right, i stand corrected. i read that post way too fast.......and responded even quicker. i was wrong