Better for a cutter/hardness - H-DROL or Havoc/Epi?
- 07-15-2009, 06:01 PM
- 07-15-2009, 11:20 PM
i prefer h-drol for cutting...but cutting is 80% diet and cardio
as for appetite suppression, both didn't really suppress my appetite, it mostly stayed the same. u could just use an appetite suppressant with it.
07-15-2009, 11:29 PM
low does epi (20 mg) and p-plex (10-15mg) is money for hardness/leaning; the p-lex also helps SLIGHTLY w/appetite supression and the epi dries you out. the key is low dose for both, but big papa is right, the biggest factor is diet followed closely by cardio/NEPA(non exercise related physical activity-i.e.taking the stars instead of the elevator).
07-15-2009, 11:34 PM
07-15-2009, 11:39 PM
10-14-2010, 07:51 AM
10-14-2010, 10:19 AM
10-14-2010, 06:20 PM
why helladrol with katanadrol over epi with katana? I wasn't a fan of cel's h-drol. Didn't seem to get much from it when I bridged it from m1,4.
10-14-2010, 06:28 PM
10-14-2010, 06:41 PM
Sorry to kind of hijack the thread, but would you guys recommend a cycle for a cut, or is it more like if you have money to burn?
10-14-2010, 06:57 PM
10-14-2010, 07:15 PM
I will be starting my first cycle of turinabol and androhard from pp...now I been looking at katanadrol and it looks good..now is the tbol and andro a better fit than tbol and kata? Would like to cut up a little more while recomp or gain a little...
10-14-2010, 07:37 PM
Just finished 6 weeks of cut/recomp on hdrol and pstanz. My body took the hdrol in about two days; I was rock hard, gaining size and strength. I adjusted to it pretty quick and it was hard to keep that rock hard look for rest of cycle without upping the dose (only went up to 75mg hdrol and I weigh 170) to where I wasn't comfortable. OEP and AT2 cut my appetite to zero. I used it on and off during my cut. Would go off when I felt I was getting used to it.
10-14-2010, 07:40 PM
Hdrol is better than Epi in my opinion for those goals- stacked with P-stanz or Furuza A for some "extra" benefits
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10-17-2010, 03:54 PM
10-17-2010, 07:42 PM
10-17-2010, 07:54 PM
I agree that diet has a lot to do with how much fat you lose. It is also true that some androgens have an affinity to burn more fat than others.
I've only done an under-dosed cycle of an Hdrol clone and a burst cycle of SD. From my limited experience, Hdrol seems to be an androgen that will burn a little fat off!
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
10-18-2010, 10:54 PM
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