Interesting Ive never heard of this. The mixture of the two sounds like a good combination to get the job done.

So just to be sure you would cycle this 2 days on 2 days off but only for 2 weeks correct?
Like a previously mentioned above adding 25% (100mcg/ml) works very well with Napalm. I usually increased my dose accordingly (total volume) by 25%+ (3.75-4.0ml x 2). This would equate to 150-200mcg clen daily.
The question I have is, why are you guys finding this tor burn. Napalm never burned except with cap. Is this a property of Eviscerate?
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I can't wait. I got my clen/keto yesterday and my Eviscerate should arrive today. Diet starts Monday. I'll be doing a UD2.0 style diet so I'll only be dosing Monday-Thursday morning. Then I'll have a half week off. I feel that this in combination with Ketotifen should prevent any receptor down-regulation.
I'll be keeping a detailed log including before/after photos (mass measurements, weight, skinfold measurements, etc.).
I've heard benadryl works for upregulation, 50mg/night every 3rd week and apparently you can keep on it for long periods of time.
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My hearts racin from the clen yesterday, im about to run to nutra to get a bottle of evis to try with clen. My goal is to lose as much total weight as possible but id also like to have some extra crazy abs. Would 2 days oral, 2 days topical, repeat be a bad protocol to try? I feel like i need a day break after taking clen 2 days in a row orally anyways. This way while im waiting for my body to recover ill still be having some assistance. If this is a bad idea im prolly just gonna stack 40mcg oral/100mg topical a day for 2 on 2 off.
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Ugh. Bad experience. Someone said then clen doesnt burn, its just the cap?
I applied 3 squirts of evis mixed in with 3 squirts of clen ~60mcg..... at first it was nothing then a slight tingling, about an hour an a half later i drove to the gym, since its hot i began to sweat. this must have triggered more absorbtion or something because i was on FIRE. go the the gym sweat more couldnt hardly bench, i swore i had third degree burns on my stomach. after bench and rows i couldnt finish my workout because it was too intense. went to the bathroom to try to wipe it off... too late the water made it worse. went home... warm water felt like acid, took freezing cold water and tons of soap to help out temporarily. it still burns and i dont want to move. FML
im guessing too much clen? i duno what to doi mixed half a bottle of clen 3000mcg with the full bottle of evis. maybe use like one squirt to cover as much area as possible? i would HATE to be at work and feel like this...
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That's why starting off slow with something like clen is a good idea. Test your tolerance. Next time, use less total solution.![]()
Lesson learned. But someone above said the clen didnt burn? i figured it wouldnt get me THAT bad
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I agree, it's probably the capsaicin that's causing the burning. I've never used cap topically, so I'm planning on 2ml x 2/day for the first day and upping the dose after I assess tolerance. My Eviscerate was supposed to arrive yesterday, but UPS screwed me once again!
There are some interesting interactions going on - notably straight thermogenesis (which is causing the area to heat up), which then triggers acute sweating, which then amplifies the nerve sensation of the capsaicin (perhaps due to the electrolytes in sweat...straight water doesn't seem to have the same amplitude of nerve signal).
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How do you know which companies are legit to order from? I am not asking for specific links or companies, I just want to make sure to get the right stuff when ordering liquid clen.
Ok, so theres no burning from clen, what would the side effects of too much clen in a topical? Not saying im going to try this lol but just curious. Will the benefit eventually slow down from added clen and then do no more good because the receptors are super saturated?
P.s. i love how i put this stuff on at like 8am and feel nothing till about 11am after being at work a few hours, then i start to sweat *slightly* then my whole chest and abdomen burn. i didnt put much on so it was just a nice, bearable burn. lets me know its workin![]()
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So I did research and found a place that sells "clen syrup" and is not in the US. Can someone just tell me if that is what I would be looking for? That wouldnt be against board rules would it?