doesn't someone make nolva/clomid blend?
- 02-04-2004, 10:41 AM
- 02-04-2004, 10:46 AM
Because it's not any better than one or the other, although some people have too much money and need to WASTE it on crap like that.
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- 02-04-2004, 11:18 AM
Originally Posted by ps24eva
- 02-04-2004, 12:46 PM
- 02-04-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by N4cer
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- 02-04-2004, 03:33 PM
Originally Posted by supersoldier
For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 02-04-2004, 03:48 PM
- 02-04-2004, 04:12 PM
Well, I also know that a lot of myths float around. Hell, I used to believe some bull**** about EQ and Deca acting in the same way and being a waste. Just like some people believe injectable winny won't damage the liver.
Now where's that damned Primo fairy? - 02-04-2004, 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by MarcusG
But if some people thinks it helps them, I won't argue with what they feel. The studies just show a different story.
I think using Nolva with 7-oxo is a much better combination.For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 02-04-2004, 05:03 PM
I HATE posting articles and studies, but this one is a good read for everyone:
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/magazine/i6clomid.html - 02-04-2004, 05:13 PM
Whether or not combining the 2 helps restore natty test faster, it will certainly restore libido faster. When I use both, my libido is full force in a matter of days. It takes 2-3 weeks with nolva alone. Being married, I need it back fast. I don't always take both because of the clomid sides though.
- 02-04-2004, 05:14 PM
- 02-04-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally Posted by brooklynheight
For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 02-05-2004, 07:02 PM
would you mind posting the next part that he mentions at the end. It seems like an interesting read. Thanks N4cer. I went to the site and couldnt find it.
- 02-06-2004, 03:19 AM
Originally Posted by Bobo
Seriously though,
I have used the clomid and novladex combo, and it works for me. However, I rely much more heavily on the nolvadex(nolva for 4 weeks and clomid for only 10-14 days) I have seen the studies the Bobo is refering to and it appears that he is correct. However, I have felt that this combo worked well for me. If you remember, it was not so long ago that everyone preached clomid and said nolvadex would not work. Now the tables have turned.
If I was forced to choose, I would certainly take Nolva over clomid w/o a doubt. The combo of nolva/clomid worked well for me once so I continued the same protocol. However, it is possible that the combo was unnecessary and I just happened to recover faster that time. None the less, I stuck with it.
In addition, I think 7oxo as Bobo suggested is a good idea. - 02-06-2004, 04:20 AM
Originally Posted by size
For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 02-06-2004, 07:02 AM
Originally Posted by size
- 02-06-2004, 09:59 AM
I had good results adding 100mg clomid the first 2 days, then 50mg for about 10 days. That's along with normal nolva dosing- 40mg/20mg/20mg/10mg over 4 weeks. I tried to use as little clomid as possible, since my face breaks out like a sausage pizza with high doses of it.
- 02-06-2004, 10:11 AM
Originally Posted by Longdog
- 02-06-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally Posted by MaNiaK1027
The only bad part of that is the HCG dosages are WAY too high. This is a couple years old, so more is understood about aromatization's effect on Leydig cells. So now we know to use less HCG. - 02-06-2004, 03:16 PM
What is everyone's opinion of using either novladex or clomid with either 6-OXO or Formenstane? My PCT on this last cycle consisted of Clomid and Formenstane and it worked well, just wanted to know what others thought.
- 02-06-2004, 03:43 PM
I don't think aromatase inhibitors are needed in PCT, since there's not enough test available to worry about aromatization.
- 02-06-2004, 04:32 PM
First of all, withouth bloodwork nobody can tell if there PCT was successful. So all these people saying "I recovered better" means jack squat unless you can post bloodwork to prove it. Your increase in libido is NOT an indication. Your increase in testes size is a mild indication. And that doesn't mean checking for 3 weeks during PCT and see LH and test are rising and figure everything is ok. PCT is often a monthly process.
Second AI's can cause a nasty rebound of estrogen when levels are suppressed for a good peroid of time. Its not needed post cycle not to mention its effects on lipid profiles.
Third, Formestane in mildy suppressive itself so using it for PCT is a bad idea.
Fourth.......I don't have a fourth...For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page. - 02-06-2004, 04:41 PM
- 02-06-2004, 05:14 PM
Well, I only used Formenstane for the first two weeks of PCT(the entire length was 5 weeks). I didn't have bloodwork done, but I base my opinion that it worked fine on the fact I only lost 9 pounds of weight after gaining 28lbs, my strength never faltered, and yes my sex drive was back to normal within that time frame. If it didn't work, I feel I would have lost more weight and definately strength. Also, I don't feel Formenstane is suppressive at all taken orally. Injection might be different, but orally I don't think their is enough conversion at the dose I was taking to be suppressive at all.
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