m1t problem should I stop taking it
- 02-02-2004, 01:46 AM
m1t problem should I stop taking it
I have several Ph/ps cycles under my belt included 2 previous with the m1t. However, during this cycle at even 10 mg stacked with oh-test/4-ad I have gotten atleast one bloody nose each day and bad ones at that. The previous cycles were all done without OH-Test so I am wondering if this is why im getting nosebleeds. Anyway my blood pressure is around 120/80 when im off, so I doubt it could be dangerously high. Should I drop dose to 5mg or stop this cycle all together out of concern for my personal health?
- 02-02-2004, 01:50 AM
do you get nose bleeds during the winter much? If it were me and I don't get nose bleeds much during the winter, I would come off.. but I am an over cautious type of guy most of the time
02-02-2004, 01:51 AM
my friend who has been taking m1t got them for about the first week and a half about once a day.. however, he is prone to nosebleeds prior, although he hadnt had one in a while previous. The nosebleeds stopped around week 2 and he hasnt had one since. He didnt check his bp before or during cycle.
02-02-2004, 01:57 AM
from what I've read alot of people seem to have spikes in blood pressure when they begin m1t or increase the dose but the bp seems to level out or go back into a normal range after a few days of dosing. Just something to think about.
02-02-2004, 02:26 AM
it's just a little scary when I laugh and im talking to a girl during the superbowl and feel a drip and another and then my hand is drenched in blood and im like ohhhh ****. But it's odd because on the meso labs m1t tabs I never got nosebleeds ever and I never felt like **** like the way I do now. I can't sleep, have no appetite and get pretty bad stomach pains now and then. I am currently taking the gaspari (kilosports) m1t with 4-ad/oh-test mix. When I have like 2 nosebleeds in 30 minutes and feel light-headed that also bothers me.
02-02-2004, 02:37 AM
02-02-2004, 09:38 AM
Why don't you take your blood pressure and find out what it is now?Originally Posted by Rictor33
Your can buy a meter at Wal-mart or pharmacy for about $40. I see no excuse for anyone concerned about their BP not to own one.
Doctors say that you CAN NOT tell your BP without a meter. Bloody noses could be caused by other things also. Lifting very heavy weights while holding your breath causes a tremendous spike of high BP. Frequent nose blowing can can nose bleeds. So can snorting coke or hormones or whatever. Some people are just "bleeders", or you could have started taking a supplement that thins your blood, such as aspirin, ginko, etc.
I have had BP as high as 170/100 (a dangerous level)and fellt fine, zero nose bleeds or sides. This is the experience of millions of people who have been diagnosed with hypertension.
I strongly advise all who are concerned about their BP to CHECK IT, rather than asking someone on the internet to make a remote diagnosis.
02-02-2004, 09:56 AM
Lethargy, no appetite and stomach pain are all possible symtoms of acute liver disease.Originally Posted by Rictor33
Nosebleeds can also be cause by liver disease.
Here is an text file about possible causes of nosebleeds: (I had to convert it to text because the board wont allow me to upload an html file. I tried to format the table of symptoms in a text editor, but transfering it to here may screw up the alignment, depending on wordwrap and font used in your browser...)
02-02-2004, 10:43 AM
I agree.Originally Posted by Greenguy
I checked mine out of curiosity because I had a mild headache for 2-3 days.
It was 175/115 resting. Thats why they call it the silent killer.
02-02-2004, 11:14 AM
about the liver disease, my doctor has told me in the past that my liver enzymes are out of wack. Does this mean I might have liver problems, hopefully I don't. He also told me to stop drinking or whatever it was I was doing, I didn't tell him about m1t because last time I mentioned substances of this type to him he bitched at me and told me to quit being stupid.
02-02-2004, 11:21 AM
no my urine hasnt been bubbly as far as I can see, one scary moment for me however was when I puked and had a bloody nose at the same time, that scared the **** out of me. mind you these bloody noses last for a while and sometimes drip pretty badly from both nostrils. I'm not sure if im going to continue m1t, even if my bp isn't high or at 5mg because something is obviously very wrong. Besides my health I dont want to be getting bloody noses at the wrong time, because I don't want people to get the wrong idea about me. People who get nosebleeds alot get thought of as yayo-heads which Is not something I want to look like in front of people im trying to make a good impression on.
02-02-2004, 11:30 AM
i wouldn't worry about the liver disease man. ockman's razor? i know i misspelled his name. its probably the m1t, stop taking it and see what happens
02-02-2004, 11:31 AM
Elevated liver enzymes on a blood test indicate either that your liver is being overworked, or that it could be getting damaged. I had a doc say the same thing to me after going in for a routine blood test. If thats the case I would stop, as the doctor stopped my perscription drugs on the spot that I was on at the time that was causing this. You don't want long term damage to your liver...Just my two cents.Originally Posted by Rictor33
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