Higher Dosesof Epistane Havoc and epi clones?experiences?

  1. New Member
    AML's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    195
    Rep Power
    211
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    57.03%

    Question Higher Dosesof Epistane Havoc and epi clones?experiences?


    I am contemplating running epi at 50-60mg with formestane . Can anyone with experience with higher doses of epistane 50mg and up daily please post their experiences.Thanks

  2. Professional Member
    mooch2321's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  235 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    3,835
    Rep Power
    2016
    Level
    42
    Lv. Percent
    59.28%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    why the formestane? epi is gonna dry you out....no need for the ai
  3. New Member
    AML's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    195
    Rep Power
    211
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    57.03%

    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    why the formestane? epi is gonna dry you out....no need for the ai
    I tried an epi clone by anabolic formulations stacked with liquid masterdrol and I got puffyness in the chest.It did not become gyno but I figured the formestane would prevent gyno if I did another epi cycle. Do you think the issue was caused by the quality of the epi clone or the liquid masterdrol? What epi products have you tried that dried you out that you would reccomend and did any of them cause puffyness in the chest area? I take it the formestane is a bad idea? I guess it would reduce estrogen too much stacked with epi. Thanks for your help.
    •   
       

  4. Professional Member
    mooch2321's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  235 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    3,835
    Rep Power
    2016
    Level
    42
    Lv. Percent
    59.28%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    epi has serm like qualities....if your holding water while on cycle i would say its from something else....
  5. New Member
    AML's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Age
    31
    Posts
    195
    Rep Power
    211
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    57.03%

    What doses have you run epi at as a stand alone?
  6. Senior Member
    luclyluciano's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  197 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Age
    52
    Posts
    1,494
    Rep Power
    933
    Level
    28
    Lv. Percent
    92.41%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by AML View Post
    What doses have you run epi at as a stand alone?

    I have run up to 50 mgs. i'd say 30-40 mgs is the sweet spot, beyond that I feel is a waste. The formestane will dry you out too much while on epi. Save the Form. Epi is great on its own.
  7. Advanced Member
    ktatro1's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  176 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Age
    27
    Posts
    562
    Rep Power
    353
    Level
    19
    Lv. Percent
    1.77%

    I tried an epi clone by anabolic formulations stacked with liquid masterdrol and I got puffyness in the chest.It did not become gyno but I figured the formestane would prevent gyno if I did another epi cycle. Do you think the issue was caused by the quality of the epi clone or the liquid masterdrol?
    I've never heard of anyone becoming puffy in the chest on Epi, quite the opposite really, but that was also in the 20-40mg ED range. Also LM shouldn't do this. It converts to Stanalone in the body, which is non-aromitizable and I'm almost positive it's already 5aR reduced. This stack to me would seem incredibly dry. If your chest was puffy after this it was either the quality of the clone or something else you were taking.

    You could use the form while on cycle, but if you did you might want bridge it with PCT. maybe something like:

    Epi: 20/30/40/40
    Form: 0/0/25/25/50/50
    PCT:0/0/0/0/X/X/X/X (X being your serm dosages)

    Your Epi values may be different depening on what you want. Thats just how I might do it for myself.
  8. Banned
    jay21's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,356
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    28
    Lv. Percent
    6.07%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    my epi 30 40 50 60 60 70 loved it! though its pretty high but then again im 230lbs. stick to a 20 20 30 30 40 40 IMO
  9. New Member
    caliphotog's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  195 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    225
    Rep Power
    184
    Level
    13
    Lv. Percent
    6.16%

    The puffy chest thing intrigues me. What else where you taking during that cycle?
  10. Advanced Member
    bigzach1234's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    961
    Rep Power
    560
    Level
    24
    Lv. Percent
    27.5%

    i think anything below 40mg is a waste.. and in my opinion 50mg is the sweet spot for in terms of gains.. i would never ramp up again.. starting at 40 is a fine place... u could go 40/50/50/50..thats wat im doing for my test cycle right now with epi as a kick start..but that would def work standalone
  11. New Member
    clewfirst's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    23
    Rep Power
    80
    Level
    4
    Lv. Percent
    38.85%

    I agree that 40 is good dosage. I didn't feel much until I went to 30mg. I ran my cycle 20/30/30/40 and I wished I had gone to 40 earlier. I started the cycle at 185 and ended at 200 with a little bit of fat gain due to a slightly sloppy diet

    If I do another epi/havoc cycle I will do 40/40/40/40 and maybe try 50 in the last week.
  12. New Member
    soujerz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    41
    Rep Power
    90
    Level
    6
    Lv. Percent
    52.6%

    i ran epistane at 30,40,50,50,50,50 for 6 weeks 50mgs felt really good only problem was back pumps which peaked at week3 and then i got more and more used to them. i would try maybe 60mgs for a week or two next time. im 6'4'' 238 12% bodyfat right now so i wouldn't recommend this dose for everyone.
  13. New Member
    clewfirst's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    23
    Rep Power
    80
    Level
    4
    Lv. Percent
    38.85%

    How much taurine and water were you taking while taking 50mgs? Increasing my taurine intake to around 5 grams took care of most of my back pumps.
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Current Epistane Clones?
    By BadSeed in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-06-2011, 10:17 AM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-16-2011, 08:04 PM
  3. Havoc/Epistane Clones coming out
    By P4D2A022 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 29
    Last Post: 03-06-2007, 03:25 AM
  4. Higher doses of Epistane???
    By FLSUCIO in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 02-26-2007, 04:22 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in