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    2 types of TREN?


    I was looking into some Tren products and they seem to be made up of different things....one starts with a 17 and the other 19nor??? which one is better or the real deal?

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    "trens" are 19nor or Estra-......NOT 17 (these are usually methylated)

    they are the same compound but written differently
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    MOD EDIT: With 5,000+ posts here, you should know better than to post that URL.
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    everyone makes mistakes, I think he just really wants an answer, suncloud is good sht.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brooksy3434 View Post
    I was looking into some Tren products and they seem to be made up of different things....one starts with a 17 and the other 19nor??? which one is better or the real deal?
    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    "trens" are 19nor or Estra-......NOT 17 (these are usually methylated)

    they are the same compound but written differently
    I think what brooksy3434 mean is 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone which is Methoxy-TRN or Trenadrol.

    The other is 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione which is the same as Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. BTW it is not tren. It is a prohormone to dienolone (similar compound to M-Dien but not methylated).
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
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    sorry. i know nutraplanet doesn't carry that compound and the company who makes trenadrol's direct website is still under construction. no offense intended, just trying to find a link with the compounds ingredient.

    kilosports trenadrol
    17b-methoxy-trienbolone 30mg

    sorry for any misunderstandings
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    from what I hear....the ingredient in the recent Trenadrol is simply the same now as the dienelone precursors. I also believe that kilo sports was raided recently so it might be wise to steer clear of them for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    from what I hear....the ingredient in the recent Trenadrol is simply the same now as the dienelone precursors. I also believe that kilo sports was raided recently so it might be wise to steer clear of them for a while.

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    Yeah, I hear so.

    The recent batch (since they changed the label into 30mg) seems to be the same as 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione or Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione (dienolone precusors).
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    so no Trenadrol?
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    well that makes the real trenadrol i've got more valuable
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    well that makes the real trenadrol i've got more valuable
    or the alri methoxy trn i have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Yeah, I hear so.

    The recent batch (since they changed the label into 30mg) seems to be the same as 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione or Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione (dienolone precusors).
    Either way Id rather use the estra anyhow so the old Kilo ingredient (whatever the fck it is)can go away forever for all I care.
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    2 types of TREN?


    Quote Originally Posted by brooksy3434 View Post
    I was looking into some Tren products and they seem to be made up of different things....one starts with a 17 and the other 19nor??? which one is better or the real deal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    I think what brooksy3434 mean is 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone which is Methoxy-TRN or Trenadrol.

    The other is 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione which is the same as Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. BTW it is not tren. It is a prohormone to dienolone (similar compound to M-Dien but not methylated).
    Actually, neither one of these are "tren"(bolone). Of course, real "tren"(bolone) has both 19-nor and 17(b-ol) in it's chemical nomenclature.



    It's been over a year since this thread (Stop ****ing Saying 'TREN'), and still forum posters and supplement marketers won't stop calling these dienolone precursors TREN...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    It's been over a year since this thread (Stop ****ing Saying 'TREN'), and still forum posters and supplement marketers won't stop calling these dienolone precursors TREN...
    except for AMS
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    Hey the 19-nor stuff I've got is called "T-Roid" haha. Any supplement with ROID in the name is plain silly.

    The naming is pretty funny in general though... but the whole PH industry is kinda retarded. Hypothetically i could have a startup company and start putting out "Ultra Roid Drol" being a blend of 10mg Superdrol, 20mg Pheraplex and 50mg 19-nor "tren" per pill, have a recommended 2 pills a day and 60 pills a bottle. And say "this stuff will get you HUUUUGE"
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    thanks for all the advice but I am still lost in the sauce
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    Quote Originally Posted by brooksy3434 View Post
    thanks for all the advice but I am still lost in the sauce
    what can we help clarify?

    19nor and estra-4 are the same compound, 17b nobody knows. tren is called tren because its structurally similar to trenbolone, missing a double bond. unfortunately, the body cannot insert the double bond, so it will never become trenbolone, but instead a steroid called dienelone.
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    got it...thanks
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