I was looking into some Tren products and they seem to be made up of different things....one starts with a 17 and the other 19nor??? which one is better or the real deal?
"trens" are 19nor or Estra-......NOT 17 (these are usually methylated)
they are the same compound but written differently
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everyone makes mistakes, I think he just really wants an answer, suncloud is good sht.
The other is 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione which is the same as Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. BTW it is not tren. It is a prohormone to dienolone (similar compound to M-Dien but not methylated).
sorry for any misunderstandings
from what I hear....the ingredient in the recent Trenadrol is simply the same now as the dienelone precursors. I also believe that kilo sports was raided recently so it might be wise to steer clear of them for a while.
so no Trenadrol?
well that makes the real trenadrol i've got more valuable
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It's been over a year since this thread (Stop ****ing Saying 'TREN'), and still forum posters and supplement marketers won't stop calling these dienolone precursors TREN...
Hey the 19-nor stuff I've got is called "T-Roid" haha. Any supplement with ROID in the name is plain silly.
The naming is pretty funny in general though... but the whole PH industry is kinda retarded. Hypothetically i could have a startup company and start putting out "Ultra Roid Drol" being a blend of 10mg Superdrol, 20mg Pheraplex and 50mg 19-nor "tren" per pill, have a recommended 2 pills a day and 60 pills a bottle. And say "this stuff will get you HUUUUGE"
thanks for all the advice but I am still lost in the sauce
19nor and estra-4 are the same compound, 17b nobody knows. tren is called tren because its structurally similar to trenbolone, missing a double bond. unfortunately, the body cannot insert the double bond, so it will never become trenbolone, but instead a steroid called dienelone.