H-drol, Kilo Trenadrol, or Epi?
Hdrol/Trenadrol (if you can get some) stack!! I start mine Monday!!!H-drol, Trenadrol, or Epi?
How would you compare the gains/sides/PCT of 1-TT with h-drol and epi?SD is lil 2 toxic for me. I have run it before but didnt like it. I have used h-drol 1-t tren and epi. h-drol altho mild has got me cut as hell. Any other opins?
What's p-5-p?lets just say i have tryed all 3. 1-t tren h-drol x2 and epi. I am breaking all my PR on 1-t tren every time I hit the gym and have gained the most mass. The cream part of it is a pain in the ass imo. I would personally rec Kilo Sports Trenadrol. The cream has to be on the skin for 12+ hours to fully take effect, which is not easy to plan out. Orals are mad easy and Kilo tren has amazing reviews everywhere. If you take the right supps gyno is not a problem at all. (p-5-p, vitex, bulk powerfull, cycle support) its a kick ass product.
Jake, Jacob -- Whatever the owner's name is... He's a prick in the worst way. I absolutely refuse to let that guy have a single penny from my pocket.p-5-p is b vitamin why dont you like usplabs? powerfull is a great product i know alot of friends on it
tren/super stack...with CHROMIUM PICOLINATE....hahaha....if i recall correctly purus isnt a board sponsor blue....and as subtle as you were...still looks like your trying to push a product to me....h-drol has treated me very well in the past. what is E-pol
It has sides like everything else...but the sides are limited to back pumps as far as my experience goes and yes it can definetly be used as a cutter or on a recomp. Completely diet based as to what it will do for you. Strength gains are no question, youll gain some weight no matter what your eating. All lean weight if your diet is even semi clean. I just LOVE epi. I've triend damn near everything. Try IronMagLabs 1-Andro if you dont want a lot of weight but solid gains in strength and some leaning qualities. Check my log in my sig.epi can give sides is it any good for cutting after a bulk cycle?
how hard was epi on your joints?It has sides like everything else...but the sides are limited to back pumps as far as my experience goes and yes it can definetly be used as a cutter or on a recomp. Completely diet based as to what it will do for you. Strength gains are no question, youll gain some weight no matter what your eating. All lean weight if your diet is even semi clean. I just LOVE epi. I've triend damn near everything. Try IronMagLabs 1-Andro if you dont want a lot of weight but solid gains in strength and some leaning qualities. Check my log in my sig.
p-5-p is the co enzyme of vitamin b6 and it is used to control/ decrease prolactin. Prolactin is often mentioned together with lactating and prolactin induced gyno together with progestins or even with designer tren products.p-5-p is b vitamin why dont you like usplabs? powerfull is a great product i know alot of friends on it
p-5-p is the co enzyme of vitamin b6 and it is used to control/ decrease prolactin. Prolactin is often mentioned together with lactating and prolactin induced gyno together with progestins or even with designer tren products.
powerfull contains L-dopa. L-dopa raises dopamin levels which lowers prolactin levels and is also used to prevent prolactin gyno on cycle. Vitex does the same trick.
~abuleh
p-5-p is b vitamin why dont you like usplabs? powerfull is a great product i know alot of friends on it
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/now-foods/p-5-p-60-tabs.htmlWhat's p-5-p?
Not sure how powerfull helps with gyno but it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever use a usplabs supplement.
In my opinion for least amount of sides and most strength and mass gains EPI is a clear winner. Not to mention how amazing it makes you feel. 40-50mgs for 6 weeks is my personal ultimate cycle. Hit my PR on just about everthing while running @ 50mg for 6 weeks.
I have to disagree with you about the side effects of epi. Any steroid-related side effect you an dream of, someone has gotten it with epi. Even if they do everything right during their cycle and PCT they can run into trouble.It has sides like everything else...but the sides are limited to back pumps as far as my experience goes and yes it can definetly be used as a cutter or on a recomp. Completely diet based as to what it will do for you. Strength gains are no question, youll gain some weight no matter what your eating. All lean weight if your diet is even semi clean. I just LOVE epi. I've triend damn near everything. Try IronMagLabs 1-Andro if you dont want a lot of weight but solid gains in strength and some leaning qualities. Check my log in my sig.
I have to disagree with you about the side effects of epi. Any steroid-related side effect you an dream of, someone has gotten it with epi. Even if they do everything right during their cycle and PCT they can run into trouble.
I have no idea what percentage of people using epi experience side effects but it's not minuscule. When I started researching my first cycle I was set to run Havoc and bought a bottle. After continued research that bottle sits in a cupboard never to be opened (by me). I compare using epi to playing Russian roulette because you just don't know how it's going to effect you until you try. I didn't want to gamble.
That's the dark side of epi. But if you are one of the lucky ones (no question the majority of people come out OK if they have a good PCT) then epi is fantastic and it can be used for increasing size, cutting or recomp.
For least sides hdrol is the clear winner.
For least sides with most gains 1-T and 1-T Tren seem to be solid candidates although I've never tried them. But unlike just about every other product out there I don't think I've ever heard about a negative experience with one of PP's products.
But I don't think any of this is helping qwerty sicne he seems to have tried just about everything mentioned in this thread
I understand you have made a personal choice but how can you disagree that epi has the least sides. I didnt say it had NO sides I said it had the least for the gains. I still believe that gains versus sides EPI wins. Hdrol def. has less sides but the gains are also much milder.....for me. Everyone is different.I have to disagree with you about the side effects of epi. Any steroid-related side effect you an dream of, someone has gotten it with epi. Even if they do everything right during their cycle and PCT they can run into trouble.
I have no idea what percentage of people using epi experience side effects but it's not minuscule. When I started researching my first cycle I was set to run Havoc and bought a bottle. After continued research that bottle sits in a cupboard never to be opened (by me). I compare using epi to playing Russian roulette because you just don't know how it's going to effect you until you try. I didn't want to gamble.
That's the dark side of epi. But if you are one of the lucky ones (no question the majority of people come out OK if they have a good PCT) then epi is fantastic and it can be used for increasing size, cutting or recomp.
For least sides hdrol is the clear winner.
For least sides with most gains 1-T and 1-T Tren seem to be solid candidates although I've never tried them. But unlike just about every other product out there I don't think I've ever heard about a negative experience with one of PP's products.
But I don't think any of this is helping qwerty sicne he seems to have tried just about everything mentioned in this thread
Let me know if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that if we were carried in the NP store, I was able to talk about the products.tren/super stack...with CHROMIUM PICOLINATE....hahaha....if i recall correctly purus isnt a board sponsor blue....and as subtle as you were...still looks like your trying to push a product to me....
This statement is true of any and every compound. How can you know how anything will effect you until you try it even non-hormonal products. I have been pulsing epi @ 50mg 3x/week on workout days with no sides at all, I'm not impressed with gains either but zero sides. I'm gonna up it to 60mg this week and see if that changes anything in terms of gains.I have to disagree with you about the side effects of epi. Any steroid-related side effect you an dream of, someone has gotten it with epi. Even if they do everything right during their cycle and PCT they can run into trouble.
I have no idea what percentage of people using epi experience side effects but it's not minuscule. When I started researching my first cycle I was set to run Havoc and bought a bottle. After continued research that bottle sits in a cupboard never to be opened (by me). I compare using epi to playing Russian roulette because you just don't know how it's going to effect you until you try. I didn't want to gamble.
Sorry to revive this but I wasn't on for a while and I'm trying to get caught up.You have alot of opinions considering not having used most of these mones.
1-T definitely has sides! If you call nipples hurting to high heaven and a feroucious itch beyond belief...good product but can't light a candle next to Epi.
H-dro is nice and mild but you gotta run high dose and use 2 bottles at least.
Epi is very safe and the clear winner here. No sides what so ever. I sure if you search real hard you'll find those claiming gyno and shedding but seems highly unlikely and exaggerated and no sides with great results is the norm not on of the lucky ones.
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Yes I have used all 3 and am onto H-Roid right now. Go ahead and open that Havoc bottle....it's amazing! You will love it! and if you really are that afraid use it on a EOD pulse to spread it out....that's what I did. Was my most memorable cycle.:duel:
when did you start noticing benefits from epi?? I'm on day 5 of Havoc at 40mg/day. I haven't noticed any difference in workouts or mood yet, thanks!In my opinion for least amount of sides and most strength and mass gains EPI is a clear winner. Not to mention how amazing it makes you feel. 40-50mgs for 6 weeks is my personal ultimate cycle. Hit my PR on just about everthing while running @ 50mg for 6 weeks.