First time cycle with Tren really that bad?
- 06-18-2009, 05:01 AM
First time cycle with Tren really that bad?
so i'm 21, 5'9, 167lbs and planning to do my first cycle. I liked how tren sounded so i purchased some along with a PCT to follow up, i wasn't planning on stacking it since i figured that tren is pretty powerful and as a beginner i wouldn't need to stack it with anything because it'd probably be potent enough for me alone, but now i'm reading up on a bunch of forums where people advise not to use tren for a first time cycle yet no one really explains as to why. is it set in stone somewhere that it shouldn't be done.. is the issue the potency for a first time cycle? Since I already purchased it i want to know if it's still okay to start the cycle? what if i start off my dosages at a low level or maybe keep them a low level, is it really that bad of an idea to use it alone as a first time cycle? Does anyone have any suggestions.
- 06-18-2009, 05:05 AM
U wangt to know how u respond to androgens before u put one of the most potent ones in ur body. That's why u would start with test. See how u react. If all goes well I don't see why not. Are u ever really ready for anything? Going to that next step is always a big deal. Ease into it
- 06-18-2009, 08:36 PM
Tren is an extremely harsh steroid. As crazy said, you need to see how your body accepts foreign chemicals (aka steroids) before jumping to tren. Judging by your weight.. 165? you should take a "safer", more practical route (maybe Hdrol, Mdrol, Havoc) before even considering tren. You can always save the tren for a rainy day somewhere down the line. As for now, save your organs/hairline/bp etc etc, and stick to a lighter compound and good diet. Good luck.
06-18-2009, 08:39 PM
are you talking about actual injectible tren, or one of the oral prodienelone products that the people who sell them call tren even though its not related?
06-18-2009, 08:48 PM
06-19-2009, 01:27 AM
On the other hand Mdrol/Superdrol will shut you down about as hard (i'd say), plus it'll tax your liver. Most people feel like **** by week 4 of Superdrol... I've seen people run Tren ace for 10 weekers. No one can run Superdrol for 10 weeks, bad idea. All the orals you mentioned will hurt your organs more than Trenbolone will. With hairline and BP it's arguable, but the orals you mention jack up the BP of many users whose posts i've read.
Tren only is a bad cycle mostly because when it's done without test you can really crush your libido. But this is a problem that occurs to a comparable extent on many legal PHs like 19-nor "tren" and Max LMG, late into an Epi or SD cycle...
06-19-2009, 06:37 AM
yeah i was referring to the real deal injectable tren. i planned on taking small dosages like 35 mg if i were to start the cycle and i have hear that it can crush your libido but how if its only temporary i wouldn't mind as long as i'm getting badass results. is the libido crush only temporary while on it a while after or are you talking prolonged or permanently?? I'm still going to follow up with a PCT
06-19-2009, 02:50 PM
this week im about to start my very first cycle. i was going to run tren alone with pct but after reading all over boards and stuff and i decided to take everyones advice and run test with it
06-19-2009, 06:09 PM
yeah i keep seeing that too i think i'mgonna wait to get test and run it with it too.. Is this your first cycle with tren or first cycle in general too?
06-19-2009, 06:32 PM
it is idiotic because u dont know what test ALONE can do for u.
test is the most diverse AAS. u can cut, bulk or recomp on it with the correct diet and training suited for each. (as with any and all AAS)
i might also add, that i PERSONALLY believe that yall have a high potential of injuring urselves on cycle. tren can cause a huge strength increase and ur tendons, nerves, ligaments ect dont grow and adapt as fast as muscle which can = serious injury.
...but go ahead, ur gonna do what u want anyway
06-19-2009, 06:34 PM
well, and at 21, 5'9, 167lbs too. working on diet will be a lot more valuable than tren or test. But i'm sure the next posting will be how he needs at least 500mg of test a week to see anything, and that he should kickstart with 50mg dbol a day too.
My suggestion is to work out a decent diet first.
06-19-2009, 09:56 PM
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