oral aas vs prohormones toxicity

[yokingupsick]

How would illegal oral steroids stack up against legal prohormone/steroids in terms of toxicity. Anavar being said to be one of the least toxic steroids how is it compared to prohormones like hdrol, epistane, pplex, tren. What about mdrol vs dbol we all know how toxic mdrol is but how about compared to dbol?
Anybody have some bloodwork?

 

[UnrealMachine]

it's hard to compare because they are all dosed differently. On a mg/mg scale it's much easier to compare but not very useful, SD is effective at 10mg and the Tren is taken around 100mg.

out of what you mentioned i would rank them like this
var<tren<hdrol<epi<dbol<phera<superdrol

talking liver toxicity correct? There's other factors. I've done enough reading on Var to know that although people like running it for 8-12 weeks, at those durations it starts to really **** up cholesterol.

 

[yokingupsick]

yeah we just talking in terms of liver damage right now
but i have heard the same about var also
r u sure dbol is less toxic than pplex?

 

[UnrealMachine]

I'm not sure at all. Is anyone?

I'm just going by what i read. I've read about people running Phera for no more than 5-6 weeks and they start feeling pretty crappy around then usually.

On the other hand, i've read about people running Dbol for 10 weeks, 12 weeks, even 20 weeks. I read one guy's posts who ran Dbol for 24 weeks. I'm guessing it's less toxic than phera.

 

[yokingupsick]

yeah thats true

 

[tim1985]

I'm not sure at all. Is anyone?

I'm just going by what i read. I've read about people running Phera for no more than 5-6 weeks and they start feeling pretty crappy around then usually.

On the other hand, i've read about people running Dbol for 10 weeks, 12 weeks, even 20 weeks. I read one guy's posts who ran Dbol for 24 weeks. I'm guessing it's less toxic than phera.

24 weeks?!!! Dam, he must have been cruising on it between cycles at a low dose or something. :dunno:

 

[searl12]

Believe it or not the tren prohormones actually seem to be a lttle harsher than people give it credit for. Ive seen a few guys with some wacked liver values just from running it solo, not to mention how brutal it is on cardiovascular function and BP. I think for me it would rank worse than epi and h drol, but obviously that is just my opinion. Ive never used m drol or p plex but I have and used M1T and I think thats the worst thing in the world so I wont even touhc p plex or m drol.
.02

 

[Marc-Antony]

This is a very legitimate question, but I don't get why ppl don't stick with (pun intended) injectables. There is nothing that you can't achieve with some quality injectables, minus the sides, liver toxicity being just one of 'em.

 

[searl12]

a reliable source and legality issues would be the most common answer to that I believe.

 

[tim1985]

a reliable source and legality issues would be the most common answer to that I believe.

Make your own, and you know its legit.

 

[searl12]

even finding reliable starting tools is difficult in Canada man, but I totally agree if you can go for it, fck these orals eh?

 

[Marc-Antony]

Well, legend has it, that enjoying the mexican sun at least once a year, will keep a strong man healthy. Oh, and If you do go there, don't forget to send some postcards to the loved ones.

 

[searl12]

there you go eh, that easy.

Ill keep that in mind

 

[yokingupsick]

Believe it or not the tren prohormones actually seem to be a lttle harsher than people give it credit for. Ive seen a few guys with some wacked liver values just from running it solo, not to mention how brutal it is on cardiovascular function and BP. I think for me it would rank worse than epi and h drol, but obviously that is just my opinion. Ive never used m drol or p plex but I have and used M1T and I think thats the worst thing in the world so I wont even touhc p plex or m drol.
.02

yeah I was thinking the same thing about tren. I have heard horrible side effects from tren everything from libido, gyno, and bp, but it is non-methylated thats why so many believe its not liver toxic.

What about 1,4ad bold?

 

[searl12]

agreed, but im positive its no good on liver, if it was a methyl it would be worse than ALL OF THEM Methyl dienelone?

 

[JKBB44]

Believe it or not the tren prohormones actually seem to be a lttle harsher than people give it credit for. Ive seen a few guys with some wacked liver values just from running it solo, not to mention how brutal it is on cardiovascular function and BP. I think for me it would rank worse than epi and h drol, but obviously that is just my opinion. Ive never used m drol or p plex but I have and used M1T and I think thats the worst thing in the world so I wont even touhc p plex or m drol.
.02

definitely agree with you. I ran tren solo 90mg for 4 weeks and got blood work two weeks after PCT. Had some high blood lipid levelsl

 

[JKBB44]

Believe it or not the tren prohormones actually seem to be a lttle harsher than people give it credit for. Ive seen a few guys with some wacked liver values just from running it solo, not to mention how brutal it is on cardiovascular function and BP. I think for me it would rank worse than epi and h drol, but obviously that is just my opinion. Ive never used m drol or p plex but I have and used M1T and I think thats the worst thing in the world so I wont even touhc p plex or m drol.
.02

definitely agree with you. I ran tren solo 90mg for 4 weeks and got blood work two weeks after PCT. Had some high blood lipid levels.

 

[repmks]

How would illegal oral steroids stack up against legal prohormone/steroids in terms of toxicity. Anavar being said to be one of the least toxic steroids how is it compared to prohormones like hdrol, epistane, pplex, tren. What about mdrol vs dbol we all know how toxic mdrol is but how about compared to dbol?
Anybody have some bloodwork?

no difference in terms of toxicity. of course some are harsher than others but for example superdrol can be comparable to anadrol. pretty f*cking toxic

 

[searl12]

definitely agree with you. I ran tren solo 90mg for 4 weeks and got blood work two weeks after PCT. Had some high blood lipid levels.

for sure man after 2 weeks it gets hard to walk up my stairs to my 3rd floor apartment lol. Not too mention the aggression at 90 mg for me was intense!!to say the least.