putting together a fall bulk

[Liftingstud]

Was looking to put together a fall bulk, idea so far...

1)
Tren 60/60/60/60/60/60
Epi 40/40/40/30/0/0
SD 0/0/0/10/20/20-30

2)
Tren 60/60/60-90/60-90/60-90
Phera 0/0/20/30/30/30


3)
Tren 60/60/60/60/60/60
PP 30/30/30/20/0/0
SD 0/0/0/10/20/20-30

4)
Tren 60/60/60-90/60-90/60-90
SD 0/0/0/20/20/20

5)
Tren 60/60/60/60/60/60
M1,4AD 60/60-90/60-90/30 or 60/0/0/0
Phera 0/0/0/20/30/30

6)
Tren 60/60/60/60/60/60
M1,4AD 60/60-90/60-90/30 or 60/0/0
SD 0/0/0/10/20/20

 

[boooosted]

I like the looks of the first and second stack quite a bit but i'd personally never do the third. I wish I had some experience with M1,4AD. How is it compared to PP and SD with gains/sides if you've run a cycle of it before?

 

[CrazyChemist]

are you dead set on running PH over AAS? are you running PH because of availability?

 

[Liftingstud]

I like the looks of the first and second stack quite a bit but i'd personally never do the third. I wish I had some experience with M1,4AD. How is it compared to PP and SD with gains/sides if you've run a cycle of it before?

Never run M1,4AD always interested me. Why no to the 3rd, yeah it is linda harsh but proper support and solid pct.

 

[Liftingstud]

are you dead set on running PH over AAS? are you running PH because of availability?

Ummmm... most are AAS just orals... Out PH would be the m14ad due to conversion to dbol or methyl bold, mixed reviews on that from what I hear.

I have thought about running inj for it though, would be first inj if so.

 

[boooosted]

Never run M1,4AD always interested me. Why no to the 3rd, yeah it is linda harsh but proper support and solid pct.

Yeah the harshness is what would have steered me from the third, but thats why i said me personally. I don't know what you have had for experience with ph/ds but by the looks and setup of these cycles it looks like you have quite a bit.

 

[Liftingstud]

Yeah the harshness is what would have steered me from the third, but thats why i said me personally. I don't know what you have had for experience with ph/ds but by the looks and setup of these cycles it looks like you have quite a bit.

yeah, plus i do lots of homework/reading... gotta know what you are taking and doing.

 

[KgTomCat]

when in doubt, test in best :thumbsup:

 

[Liftingstud]

when in doubt, test in best :thumbsup:

Haha yeah just not sure about inj... Guess it's just the first few times. It has crossed my mind quite often.

 

[Liftingstud]

Not sure I want to mess with SD anymore. Love the strength and growth but at what cost. I haven't run mdrol or dymethizine (hear the sides should be less since it is released slower due to the double bond having to be broken). Just taken the orginal SD.

 

[bigzach1234]

dude i am in the same boat as you.. i want to bulk hard for fall... i just know the sides will be bad when stacking 2 or more harsh compounds...i really wanted to use ds/ph..but finally decided why not run a 10 week test cyle.. 4 weeks more then a ph/ds cycle.. but i know i will feel great the whole time instead of crappy ill be more horny ...compared to not even being able to get up while taking harsh ds... i decided on test prop..because i like the idea of my gains being more spread out over ten weeks, as well as being able to feel the effects right away..also, there will be no time before pct where i lose my gains or start to feel crappy


edit: i heard so much stuff about test prop being painful and all.. so i placed a small order for 1 10mL vial to test and make sure i was getting myself into something i couldnt handle... took one shot .. that stung way way less then i expected.. i suspect ppainful prop is the product of high BA.

 

[KgTomCat]

dude i am in the same boat as you.. i want to bulk hard for fall... i just know the sides will be bad when stacking 2 or more harsh compounds...i really wanted to use ds/ph..but finally decided why not run a 10 week test cyle.. 4 weeks more then a ph/ds cycle.. but i know i will feel great the whole time instead of crappy ill be more horny ...compared to not even being able to get up while taking harsh ds... i decided on test prop..because i like the idea of my gains being more spread out over ten weeks, as well as being able to feel the effects right away..also, there will be no time before pct where i lose my gains or start to feel crappy


edit: i heard so much stuff about test prop being painful and all.. so i placed a small order for 1 10mL vial to test and make sure i was getting myself into something i couldnt handle... took one shot .. that stung way way less then i expected.. i suspect ppainful prop is the product of high BA.

me too man, I wanna move past these orals, which are worse for your body and just start injecting. but I hate to say it, Im too much of a puss to inject, and Im young...

 

[Knowbull]

Tren and SD seemed like coffee and cream to me, throw in some Sustain EOD after day 14 and you will blow up.

 

[Liftingstud]

Tren and SD seemed like coffee and cream to me, throw in some Sustain EOD after day 14 and you will blow up.

Sustain?

 

[KgTomCat]

Sustain?

:lol:

 

[Liftingstud]

Tren and SD seemed like coffee and cream to me, throw in some Sustain EOD after day 14 and you will blow up.

Sustanon

Was looking into something like that or some test cryp (200mg) or enanth (250), every 3 days.

The Sus that I was looking into is a 250 (inj every 5 days)
test propionate 30 mg
test phenylpropionate 60 mg
test isocaproate 60 mg
test decanoate 100 mg

or a Sus 325
test acetate 30 mg
test propionate 50 mg
test phenylpropionate 50 mg
test cypionate 90 mg
test decanoate 105 mg

 

[KgTomCat]

Sustanon
The Sus that I was looking into is a 250 (inj every 5 days)
test propionate 30 mg
or a Sus 325
test propionate 50 mg

heard these hurt like a b!tch!!!

 

[Liftingstud]

heard these hurt like a b!tch!!!

Yeah that def not what I am looking for esp 1st time... Plus I got sit on my bum all day

 

[bigzach1234]

imo i would not uses sustanon unless you are willing to inject eod.. or you are completely wasting the short estered tests

 

[KgTomCat]

bigzach, got some big @ss arms brotha!

 

[Liftingstud]

imo i would not uses sustanon unless you are willing to inject eod.. or you are completely wasting the short estered tests

Cool deal... Figured the short esters would just get u the affect faster and not have to wait for that kick in time.

Anymore opinions on the above orals?

 

[musclempire]

I like Option 3 a lot just up the dose of the tren to at least 90mg everyday..or you could go with PP transdermal at 5 or 6 pumps a day in place of the tren caps..either way cant wait to follow if you log

 

[Liftingstud]

I like Option 3 a lot just up the dose of the tren to at least 90mg everyday..or you could go with PP transdermal at 5 or 6 pumps a day in place of the tren caps..either way cant wait to follow if you log

yeah i had thought about that but figured stacking with phera then sd wouldnt need the 90... actually was going to play it by ear if i ran that one... i have run havoc and tren, 30/30/40/40 and 60/60/90/90 and gained about 12 lean lbs with massive increase in strength (gotta love tren strength gains). Just not sure about a mix of those 3, phera and sd bridge might be rough enough and adding in tren would make it even rougher. Plus not sure how keen i am on sd as i said above.

Ohh yeah definately log whatever i run esp if its a combo that hasnt been logged