FIRST CYCLE (TEST E) NEED ADVICE
05-13-2009 09:14 AM
Originally Posted by Gixxer82
05-13-2009 09:27 AM
05-13-2009 09:38 PM
Do not run both Nolvadex and Clomid as there is absolutely no point in doing so. You run one of the other; there is no need for using two SERMs.
Run your PCT like so:
Also, do not run 25mgs of Letrozole -- that is kissing your penis good-bye. I think maybe the poster got the dosing protocol for Aromasin and Letrozole confused but that is a terribly dangerous thing to mess up on and pass on as advice.
I do not suggest Letrozole while on cycle, but that is just me.
05-13-2009 09:40 PM
That, it is. It is a clone of a methylated form of Epistanol.
Originally Posted by Ubiyca
05-13-2009 11:06 PM
There are two different sides to running both Nolva and Clomid. But I side on using both, since Nolva helps with the gyno issues,to make sure there are none, and Clomid brings back the testicles faster.
Originally Posted by poofuss
Yes, I would definitely use Aromasin instead of Letro, but that is if you have it. I assumed he only had Letro. But for my cycle I used Anastrozole since I also didnt have access to Aromasin, or want to pay that much.
05-14-2009 08:59 AM
I'd rather run lower doses each of clomid + nolva together than run higher doses of either alone.
05-14-2009 09:23 AM
nolva and clomid do different things, poofuss, your really need to do homework before such an outlandish statement
05-14-2009 12:51 PM
Okay everyone is starting to confuse me lol, but what i'm finding out is that is it wise to do both nolva and clomid at low doses for pct. For everyones information I will have Letro on hand i already have it from a friends prior run and didnt know if it was wise if gyno comes up to use that or nolva. What i've been picking up is that nolva would be a good choice if i get a flare and can use it on my cycle. And if you havent run a cycle before or had gyno flares whats the use in throwing in your 2 cents not directed to the helpful people like gregchick,EasyJL, ajenson11, Jkurz, Geekpoop. thank you for your help all and if you have anymore advice just PM me definately willing to listen and take advice just not from idiots.
05-14-2009 11:01 PM
i think nolvedex is overused as i've said before. to me...nolvedex is like a safe drug... u can use it just incase of gyno but most likely u wont need it, unless ur prone to it... and u'll only need to do one cycle to find that out.
however i'm all for bringing back the testes quicker, because the quicker they come back the less depression ull have. the biggest problem for me in the gym during pct would be depression...its a killer. i'd go with hcg
05-15-2009 12:53 AM
Well my next cycle which I took off of Steroid.com will be as follows:
1 – 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 – 12 EQ 500mg/wk
3 -15 HCG 250iu/wk
1 – 15 Nolvadex 10mg ED
1 – 15 L-dex .25mg ED
16-20 Nolva 20mg
day 1 clomid 300mg
day2-14 clomid 100mg
19 - 20week clomid 50mg
Though I will be using Anastrozole instead of Letro.
Just keep reading everything you can, and try to read through the contradictions.
05-17-2009 07:46 PM
Hahaha, don't tell me I need to do my "homework" when you handing are out what you may call 'advice' while others would be more confident in saying it is merely an uneducated guess.
Originally Posted by gregchicken
Do not parrot the words of others as Nolvadex and Clomid are both SERMs and while one may not be equally effective in their applications with HDL, FSH and LH recovery...using both is in PCT is hardly worth the cost in terms of what you get out of the therapy.
If you are overly concerned about those areas, use a different SERM -- Fareston (Toremefine Citrate). It is a superior SERM in all areas except in the event that you catch forming gyno early on, which is where Nolvadex shines somewhat.
05-17-2009 08:53 PM
I have had a low testerone count for quite some time,However I did not know what was going on. I was being treated for depression, I just had no energy to do anything. Imean taking out the trash was a chore. This went on untill I got soo sick of felling like crap and being on so many meds. Oh I had also injured my back at work and was getting corticosteroid spinal injections. Well I finall started doing my homework online about my symptoms, Oh by the way I had absoltley no interest in sex either. that when I knew something was way wrong. anyway I had found a clinic that deals with this and they did my blood work and my test was way low. So the doctor has prescribed me hcg injections as well as test cypionate and one I cannot pronounce or spell. he said this would bring my levels back up. later I found that the spinal injections I was getting was stopping my natural production of test. I have not started my injections yet but will update when I do.
05-20-2009 09:39 PM
Okay another question i'm shooting 500mg a week what is the best way to do that, one day or break it into 2 days because i heard about these oil build up bumps that people get from shooting to much in one spot
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