- 05-05-2009, 03:56 PM
- 05-05-2009, 04:04 PM
any form of test, if experienced and dont mind pinning then probably test no ester, if not as experienced then a longer ester, enanthate or cyp. Definitely test is best bang for buck and risk/reward as far as gains vs sides.
First cycle, test enan or cyp 8-12 weeks 250-500 mgs per week. that is all that is needed for most people.
- 05-05-2009, 04:59 PM
05-05-2009, 05:57 PM
05-08-2009, 07:59 AM
05-08-2009, 08:33 AM
sounds good to me, that was actually my first, the redi-jects from mexico with the harpoon for a pin. I am old school so I do advise a taper at the end, many here dont, I would not go above 500 mgs per week for about 8 weeks or so and end at 250 mgs per week for another 2 or so, then start pct about a week after last shot. Give it a week or two to kick in, though it is an ester mix, not all is short ester so it will still take a little time to kick in fully.
05-08-2009, 01:56 PM
Man those redi-ject needles are huge. I got smart after the first few injections of those, I started transfering them to a smaller syringe. It stacked real well with the primoteston 250 from mexico also. I used to get a whole cycle of both for under 50 bucks back in the day.
05-08-2009, 02:36 PM
05-08-2009, 04:06 PM
I remember me and two other of my friends standing around in one of their parents basement (we were too young to be doing that and it was the first gear we had ever seen) looking at the size of that thing and being like what the heck did we get ourselves into?
05-08-2009, 04:52 PM
Its bad enough you have to stick yourself with a needle for the first time, but those would scare the crap outta you. Other than the needle size its a pretty slick way to buy gear, all ready to go.
05-10-2009, 01:58 PM
05-10-2009, 02:24 PM
results?cuting, bulking?i gained best off a -
test e 750mg ew 10 weeks, dbol 50mg weeks 1-6. stanz 50mg ed (7-10)
i did a sust 500mg ed 10 , deca 400mg ew 10 (same dbol and stanz as above) and gained less, so i would say test e
for cutting- test prop 125mg eod, tren a 75,mg eod, masteron 100mg eod
05-10-2009, 04:19 PM
05-11-2009, 04:19 AM
05-11-2009, 07:35 AM
sust does seem to get too much love on this board.. everyone reccomends test e... every reccomendation for a first cycle on this board is always test e
05-11-2009, 02:16 PM
No, I have never done Sust. This will be my first pinned cycle.oops, i ment ew. sust is good have you tried it before?i honest feel that the longer ester are the best. if i wont use sust again, i will simply use test e with a few test prop jabs for 3- 4 weeks at 100mg eod. i like frontloading test and kickstarting...its the best!
How many days did you pin? And What days?
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