M1T and marijuana
- 01-13-2004, 08:26 PM
- 01-13-2004, 08:29 PM
Well THC has been shown to drop test levels, and if you are running M1T by itself, you don't need any help with dropping test levels.
- 01-13-2004, 08:34 PM
You should not be using marijuana if you are serious about bbing. Only benefit may be the increase in appetite but I have yet to see a high individual eat a clean meal.
01-13-2004, 08:42 PM
That is so true. How many guys do you know that smoke a joint, then go drink a meal replacement or whey shake?
01-13-2004, 08:44 PM
I cant beleive im staring at a post about ****ing weed, god its so bottom feeder to me. Why bother lifting if you smoke. I bet he doesnt have any PCT
01-13-2004, 08:48 PM
01-13-2004, 09:02 PM
While on cycle it is best to stay away from anything that is not going to help you accomplish your goals. While not on cycle it is best to stay away from anything that is not going to help you accomplish your goals, but a toke every now and then probably wont hurt you that bad. (by every now and then I mean once a month)
01-13-2004, 09:25 PM
I am so sick of repeating myself on this one, but I'll give a brief overview of my opinion:
The actual physical effects of smoking marijuana and how this relates to your gains, lack of gains, or fat loss is usually a personal problem related to lifestyle choices, not a problem with the substance itself. People speak of increased appetite and so forth. This is a personal choice. If you can keep yourself in check while smoking marijuana the only negative I have ever really come up with is the actual damage of inhaling the smoke, as it contains tar and carcinogens. I have seen several reports with conflicting info, but if you aren't smoking a few joints daily I think you're probably in the clear with that one
I used to smoke marijuana daily for years, but in the past few have dropped usage considerably, mainly because I'm sick of buying it and just don't think about it much anymore, not for some ill effect it has has on me. I may not be your typical case, but I strongly suggest to everyone that they realize personal responsibility is a big factor with marijuana use. If you can use it responsibly and not succumb to overeating or laziness, then the real effects are IMO very negligible to BB'ing. I realize this is not a popular belief however, as it does not villify the substance as so many are in such a hurry to do it seems.
I have made many posts with links to data and so forth, there shoudl be some here to search. As for the test levels dropping, no one has been able to prove that to me yet with a decent study that has applicable results, so don't "take people's word for it".
01-13-2004, 09:34 PM
Im not trying to be rude, but why bother to smoke weed, it has no positive effects on the body IMO. I like my brain cells, and it DOES kill them..
01-13-2004, 09:35 PM
But then again so does falling and hitting your head, but hey, its weed. Id rather refrain from smoking plants that worms and birds **** on :P
01-13-2004, 09:55 PM
01-13-2004, 10:01 PM
some people enjoy activities that do not necessarily benefit their body directly....it's called "pleasure" or "leisure".... look them upOriginally Posted by Jason161
You may not see it that way, but some others do
01-13-2004, 10:09 PM
I had a 3.5 gpa and got high everyday........marijuana has no toxic effects what's so ever. There used to be a myth about sperm production and test levels but that is a myth. People that do drugs to excess typically make bad lifestyle changes due to the fact that they prefer to stay stoned 24/7 not because the substance they are doing is so toxic! It has to do with lifestyle CHOICES!
Take it from someone with experience. Ah yeah a good buddy of mine smokes everytime he goes running and before he goes to the gym. He says it helps him focus on his body? To each his own. One more note he NEVER skips or does halfa$$
Hey jason that beef and chicken and veggies you eat get there nitrogen / phosphorous / and potassium from fertilizer made up of $hit. FYI
One more thing go do research and write a list of pros and cons from marijuana use and see which one is bigger and make sure the info gathered is from scientific research. Guess which side of the list is bigger? I'm obviously for the use of marijuana. in case you guys haven't noticed.
01-13-2004, 10:12 PM
no, smoking weed won't have any ill effects on you as a bodybuilder. As a marathon runner, sure, but not a bodybuilder. I smoke daily and I smoke the good stuff, and for me a high will bring me an intense workout. And yes I DO eat clean on it. I could get high and have a chicken breast and a protein shake (and usually do) .
And by the way, I'm sure thinking about a hard math problem kills brain cells too. If you live your whole life in a box like that you're never going to have any fun.
01-13-2004, 10:14 PM
I workout hard. I eat right and I do cycles.
BUT I do drink occasionaly, I do smoke pot ocassionaly. I don't need to devote my every waking moment to BBing. Yet somehow I still progress and look great..funny.
People put too much emphasis on things. If someone you know or you yourself arent getting where you wanna be cause you smoke or drink every now and then, I gurantee its not the drinking and smoking.
01-13-2004, 10:15 PM
you EAT plants that worms and birds **** on.Originally Posted by Jason161
and if you are smoking weed birds **** on you are not smoking the good **** anyway.
01-13-2004, 10:20 PM
actually marijuana doesn't kill anymore brain cells than pumping gasoline, the reason people experience short term memory loss is because marijuana binds to THC receptors in the brain and when the receptors are filled it interferes with signal passage from the hippocampus which controls short term memory loss. The binding to the receptors is temporary so as a direct result so is the Short term memory loss. If anyone is curious as to the physiological effects of marijuana look at the research performed by Dr. Howard Grinspoon the old chief Medical Professor at Harvard University. It will crush any misinformed propaganda originated crap that poeple have heard from the "reffer Madness" days.
01-13-2004, 10:21 PM
This was meant as a joke right? If not that was a pretty stupid statementOriginally Posted by Jason161
01-13-2004, 10:30 PM
Alei-****in-leuighua.......People take this $hit WAY too seriously sometimes. I admit, when I first started getting into the game, I had to have everything perfect, etc, in order to learn the correct way to do things, and pot definately wouldn't have helped me out in understanding things at the time. But as I progressed, the more I learned to work my "hobby" into my lifestyle and vice-versa. If you don't wanna smoke it cool, if you do then thats fine. But give it a rest on the theory that it will ruin your life, your career, your BB'ing, your test levels. I know a handful of bro's at my old gym that I used to train with that smoke the $hit everyday. Trust me you wouldn't tell them to their faces that it'll ruin their physique. They are some of the most biggest, ripped, goal-oriented, people I know.Originally Posted by enkri
01-13-2004, 10:31 PM
as long as we're in a pot debate, didn't the government fund a scientific report on harmful effects of weed, but the report signified no ill effects, and then the gov't banned further national funded research on it?
Also notice that those ****ing lame truth commercials have to pull **** out of their ass now (tell him you didn't pick him up because you got high) instead of actually naming harmful effects like the tobacco commercials. That's cause there ARE NONE.
01-13-2004, 10:38 PM
Yes, as enkri stated about the "reefer madness" days, the gov't tried to spread all sorts of propaganda to try and give false claims about maryjane's effects on its users. Hey enkri, have you ever seen the special about the history of that era in time hosted by Woody Harrelson?Originally Posted by hypo
01-13-2004, 11:04 PM
01-13-2004, 11:05 PM
Hey im not downing your leisure activities, I had mine when I was in high school, just saying it gets old I guess. I consider lifting my leisure is all, and the marine corps
01-13-2004, 11:07 PM
Search my posts for links to a 1972 government study aproved by Nixon, that is what you are referring to.Originally Posted by hypo
01-13-2004, 11:18 PM
01-13-2004, 11:28 PM
It doesn't make sense to me. It just seems counterproductive but its better than getting drunk. Whatver floats your boat but don't bitch to me when your on a constant cutting cycle because you have the munchies all the time. I guiess if your a powerlifer if might be good. Just not my thang....
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01-13-2004, 11:29 PM
01-13-2004, 11:30 PM
01-13-2004, 11:48 PM
01-13-2004, 11:51 PM
I would much rather see AAS be legalized over marijuana. So bbing potheads unite and convince your hippie frineds to help in the cause for the legalization of AAS.
01-13-2004, 11:53 PM
01-13-2004, 11:56 PM
01-13-2004, 11:57 PM
Rhelm, if you want to smoke out, blaze on ahead man. I made some great gains while not avoiding it, and so will you. Provided that you eat right and work out hard. If you want to smoke after you work out, do it. I don't smoke at this time, but I can say that if your mind is in lifting while you are lifting, it isn't going to make you some kind of a burned out weakling.
01-14-2004, 12:26 AM
Thank God Jweave and a few others came along and bitch slapped the rest of you. I rarely smoke but if you people are going to shovel in the bull**** the government and everyone else tells you about how bad weed is for you, and then try to make up reasons (low test and other health "hazards") to not do it, your just fooling yourself. Whether you do or don't smoke, make it a personal reason. Either A) you don't want to break the law. B) It interferes with motivation or C) Its just not your thing. Everyone is entitled to their own hobbies, or leisure activities, and if weed smoking is one of them, and you can legitimately say that is doesnt negatively effect other aspects of your life...then smoke away. If it does negatively effect your life, you have to weigh the pros and cons...just like everything else in life. Its all about priorities and consequences.
01-14-2004, 12:33 AM
I do not care if you smoke marijuana as long as you do not encourage kids to do it. However, marijuana smokers always give the same responses and arguments.
The fact is marijuana is NOT healthy. Cough Cough
01-14-2004, 12:58 AM
how bout not smoking while on a cycle? its like not drinking/smoking while yer pregnant.
arnold did smoke himself did he not?
but then again, everyone, EVERY SINGLE person i know that use drugs regularly, is a failure in life.
01-14-2004, 01:04 AM
I smoke weed almost every day. May as well call me Thurgood Jenkins. When I smoke, I SMOKE. At least two blunts to start off with. I continually make solid gains.
Amen to that. I myself used to smoke every night while cycling, did that all summer long while on cycle and still gained good mass. Would I have gained more if I wasn't smoking? I really don't know. Do I believe it is damaging to my health? Of course, it's unfiltered smoked entering the lungs and contains a heavy amount of tar. But I do know the 3 PB&J sandwiches I would eat after coming home (and already eating a ****load before that) sure helped me out.They are some of the most biggest, ripped, goal-oriented, people I know..
As for working out high, I can't even imagine doing that. I had a slight buzz from smoking earlier in the day once and decided to go for a workout and couldnt even do one rep on my warmup weight. **** that.. that's why whenever I'm out partying I don't smoke or drink unless I'm with only good friends, because if a fight starts, and I usually end up having to mediate since I'm the "big guy", I want to be as sober as possible.
You can shove that statement straight up your ass.Your funding terrorism.
01-14-2004, 01:09 AM
With your user name how did I guess that you smoke weed.
It is a joke, I used to back in the day, but I haven't for ten years now.
01-14-2004, 01:10 AM
If a person regularly gets high, then they will not have problems whatsoever.
Nothing wrong with a big appetite on cycle eh?
Id like to see you work out when you are drunk. You can handle your liquor right.
Ill bet dude can puff puff and hit the weights with enthusiasm.
Ther has never been a reported death due to marijuana poisoning. EVER.
Go drink 3 gallons of bourbon and call me in the morning.
Last edited by Yimen E.Cricket; 01-14-2004 at 01:28 AM.
01-14-2004, 01:18 AM
Originally Posted by GangstaJDog
Chill out there Capone.
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