i've just started 1st cycle of m1t. started at 5mgs twice/day. gained about 5lbs right off the bat. seemed to level off there, so increased to 10mg twice/day. no increases seen yet. are people seeing increases after the first "burst"? tia
As I mentioned in another thread, Bobo (or possibly Chemo) proposed that the effects of M 1-T were not strongly dose dependent beyond a threshold dosage (my paraphrase). Just taking more does not necessarily imply that you will gain more or faster. You will get stronger sides, though.I am considering bumping to 20mg day for the last 4 days of my two weeker just to see if there is any noticeable difference.
I've always heard to not do PCT the first 2 weeks off. But wait till your completely off after the 2nd 2 week on?Most people get big gains the 1st week, then level off around by 10. That's where the 2on, 2off, 2on cycle theory came from. Stop after 2 weeks when gains slow or stall. Then after 2 weeks of PCT, go back on for 2 weeks & re-capture that initial explosion in gains.
M1t has been shown to cause near-total shutdown in as little as a few days. If you plan to take 2 weeks off m1t during the cycle, you'll absolutely need to either take nolva/clomid for those 2 weeks, or another PH. I've heard some guys taking m1t & 4ad, just taking the 4ad at higher doses in the 2 middle weeks. I plan to run 2on/2off/2on with M1t/4ad soon & I will use a transdermal 1-test with the 4ad for the middle 2 weeks.I've always heard to not do PCT the first 2 weeks off. But wait till your completely off after the 2nd 2 week on?
So would doing 40mg/20mg Nolva during first 2 weeks off before going back on be better? Then 40/20/20?
Could you please elaborate, size? I never warmed up to the idea either, but that was only my gut feel and I do not know enough about it to say otherwise. I would appreciate a little more insight behind your reasoning.Personally, I do not like the 2 on 2 off idea.
That's my feeling as well (against 2 on, 2 off cycle), but since this is my first M1T cycle, and I have never done anything stronger, I'm really not in a postition to judge. I'm just basing my opinion on the fact that "real" steroids are used for upwards of 8-10 weeks on a normal cycle, and people recommend only 2 weeks at a time on this.
BTW, I've been on my cycle for 13 days now, 10mg/ED for the first week, and now 20mg/ED now; bumping to 30 for next week. In the first week, I gained roughly 9 pounds and I've gained 4 since then. Only in the past coupla days have I myself really noticed size gains, although people have been commenting on how much bigger I look. Strength has been noticeably up only recently (like, last 4 days).
Amen brother!As I mentioned in another thread, Bobo (or possibly Chemo) proposed that the effects of M 1-T were not strongly dose dependent beyond a threshold dosage (my paraphrase). Just taking more does not necessarily imply that you will gain more or faster. You will get stronger sides, though.
Could you please elaborate, size? I never warmed up to the idea either, but that was only my gut feel and I do not know enough about it to say otherwise. I would appreciate a little more insight behind your reasoning.
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