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    Here's some info on clen from a post at another board:



    Clenbuterol handbook
    CLENBUTERAL FAQ: EVERYTHING YOU
    NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT CLENBUTEROL
    by BigAndy69

    What is Clenbuterol?

    Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
    for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
    FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
    like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
    like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
    hours and not 48 hours.

    Dosing and Cycling

    Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
    and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
    very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
    in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
    most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
    body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties
    fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
    consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
    for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

    Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

    Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP
    raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels
    about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

    DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it
    because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
    benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
    half-life prevents it from being all that effective.

    As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some
    would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on
    Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This
    may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a
    time.

    Side effects

    NAUSEA
    NERVOUSNESS
    DIZZINESS
    DROWSINESS
    DRY MOUTH
    FACIAL FLUSHING
    HEADACHE
    HEARTBURN
    INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
    INCREASED SWEATING
    INSOMNIA
    LIGHTHEADEDNESS
    MUSCLE CRAMPS
    TREMORS
    VOMITING
    CHEST PAIN

    The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
    increased blood pressure.

    Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
    bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
    day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
    minimizing cramps.

    Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
    signs of a headache.

    Common Uses

    Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
    user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
    body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
    intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

    Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
    vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
    fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
    bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g
    per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

    Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be
    used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
    hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

    Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA
    stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To
    take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be
    included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.

    Precautions: Is Clen for you?

    The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although
    some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked
    with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations
    are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
    before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

    A word on Ketotifen

    Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
    treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down
    regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks
    at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
    extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be
    adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
    extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
    dieting.

    Cycling Clenbuterol

    Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
    high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
    the first 3-4 days of use.

    A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
    until the side effects are not tolerable

    Example of a first cycle:

    Day1: 20mcg
    Day2: 40mcg
    Day3: 60mcg
    Day4: 80mcg
    Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
    Day6-Day12: 100mcg
    Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
    normal gradually)
    Day14: 60 mcgs
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    Example of a second cycle:

    Day1: 60mcg
    Day2: 80mcg
    Day3: 80mcg
    Day4: 100mcg
    Day5: 100mcg
    Day6-Day12: 120mcg
    Day13: 100 mcg
    Day14: 80 mcgs
    Day15: off
    Day16: off
    Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

    What else do I need to know?

    Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
    levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
    Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
    cramps. It's a must with Clen.

    Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
    your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
    advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

    Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day

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    Great post bro..........
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    Seen it before but still good Sticky material.

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    Here are my Clen questions:

    1. I have in liquid form, clenbuterol 100 MCG/ML - 60 ML Vial., How would you recommend dosing the liquid form.

    I understand the following:

    mcg's measure mass

    mL's measure volume

    cc's measure volume and they're the same as mL's

    The dosage in this 60 ml vial is 100 mcg/ml.

    2. I will be cycling it every 2 weeks, 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. During the 2 week off period, will it be useful to use Bronkaid (epiphedrine)? I have heard thee use of Benadryl, is this for someone with troble sleeping while dosing Clen?


    3. Napalm and Clenbuterol, is it worth it for the abs and love handles? Would you supply it at night prior to bedtime while you are regurarely taking your clen during the day before 4 pm?
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    Just a few observations....

    I have helped figure girls prep who actually could go up to 200mcgs a day without any noticeable sides....WOW!

    I trained with my best friend who is a pro BB when he was getting ready for his last Olympia years ago....he couldnt get anywhere near that....

    I have seen people take clen in small amounts and lose tons of weight eating McDonalds everyday, and Ive seen people take high amounts and eat perfectly and not lose much. I honestly think this is chemical that has the most variance in results among different people.

    I also dont think people will get anywhere near 8 weeks before they stop seeing results...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spshond View Post
    Here are my Clen questions:

    1. I have in liquid form, clenbuterol 100 MCG/ML - 60 ML Vial., How would you recommend dosing the liquid form.

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    Each ML (or cc) of your vial contains 100mcg of clenbuterol...If I were you, I would use a 1cc insulin syringe to dose this as it will make it a lot easier to measure out than a 3cc. So, just for clarification purposes, 1ML=100mcg OR 1/2ML=50mcg OR 1/4ML=25mcg......

    As I said in my previous post, I have helped prep lots of people and its insane the amount of difference between each person...
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    Quote Originally Posted by holyintellect View Post
    Each ML (or cc) of your vial contains 100mcg of clenbuterol...If I were you, I would use a 1cc insulin syringe to dose this as it will make it a lot easier to measure out than a 3cc. So, just for clarification purposes, 1ML=100mcg OR 1/2ML=50mcg OR 1/4ML=25mcg......

    As I said in my previous post, I have helped prep lots of people and its insane the amount of difference between each person...

    Therefore you think that a 1/4ML = 25MCG would be a good starting point for the first day to see how it effects me?
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    Yeah, I would start at 1/4ML (or cc when you measure it up). I would take that once a day for two or three days. If you feel OK, I would then bump it up to 1/4ML twice a day.....Do that for a few days and so on....

    Like I said Ive seen people who were able to get up to 200mcgs with no problem and Ive seen people who felt like their hands were going to shake off and their heart was going to explode at 25mcgs....Its hard to say where you'll wind up.
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    So best place to get the proper dropper is at a pet store you think?
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    I wouldnt use a dropper...I would use a 1cc insulin syringe...its just easier to measure smaller increments. You can use a 3cc but its just a little more tedious. Whatever you do DONT use the dropper that came with it if it did. Those arent calibrated to measure accurately and if you're measure mcgs, you want to be accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holyintellect View Post
    I wouldnt use a dropper...I would use a 1cc insulin syringe...its just easier to measure smaller increments. You can use a 3cc but its just a little more tedious. Whatever you do DONT use the dropper that came with it if it did. Those arent calibrated to measure accurately and if you're measure mcgs, you want to be accurate.

    Very helpful post guys, I found a 1cc and it has 1/4ml, 1/2ml, 3/4ml measurements on it. I will start today.
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    I have a bottle from 3 years ago with enough left for 2 more cycles. Do you think it is still good or trash it?

    I have followed that routine above and it worked wonders for me. I lost a great deal of BF. Can't remember the exact amount, but I cut up real quick without any sides except an occasional headache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightercowboy View Post
    I have a bottle from 3 years ago with enough left for 2 more cycles. Do you think it is still good or trash it?

    I have followed that routine above and it worked wonders for me. I lost a great deal of BF. Can't remember the exact amount, but I cut up real quick without any sides except an occasional headache.

    Which routine are you referring too. How high of a dose did you go up to? For how long total?
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    I did both cycles at the top. The first two weeks is the first one and then took two weeks off and did the second cycle of two weeks. The highest I ever went up to was 160mcgs. That was in the second cycle. Overall I did three 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 2 weeks on. I followed the protocol pretty closely of tapering dosing up each day and then back down, so the 160 was somewhere around day 7 & 8.

    I just hope what I have left would still be good and I can use it for another cycle.
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    I have taken Clenbuterol and it did nothing for me ...I know guys swear by it but I actually gained weight on it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHeadHunter View Post
    I have taken Clenbuterol and it did nothing for me ...I know guys swear by it but I actually gained weight on it....

    I imagine that you could if you ate alot, probably drank beer while on it, maybe you had some clen that was not powerful enough or not even real. Iam on an extremely clean diet, and i cheat once a week, I don't drink alcohol, and clen is amazing for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spshond View Post
    I imagine that you could if you ate alot, probably drank beer while on it, maybe you had some clen that was not powerful enough or not even real. Iam on an extremely clean diet, and i cheat once a week, I don't drink alcohol, and clen is amazing for me.
    Yep its because it doesn't suppress appetite... plus I usually work afternoon shifts and eat at night late often...
    The Clen I was getting is genuine pharmacy stuff though since I have some asthma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHeadHunter View Post
    Yep its because it doesn't suppress appetite... plus I usually work afternoon shifts and eat at night late often...
    The Clen I was getting is genuine pharmacy stuff though since I have some asthma.
    I hope those stats aren't real. If so then you sure as hell shouldn't be using clen.

    You shouldn't say that you didn't lose weight because you are eating late at night. I eat right before bed every night, whether cutting or bulking, and most people do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHeadHunter View Post
    I have taken Clenbuterol and it did nothing for me ...I know guys swear by it but I actually gained weight on it....
    I believe it....as I said earlier, Ive seen people use it and get nothing, and others use it and literally turn into a human furnace....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightercowboy View Post
    I have a bottle from 3 years ago with enough left for 2 more cycles. Do you think it is still good or trash it?

    I would NOT use liquid clen that was two years old...tabs would be another story.
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    if you stacked it with T3, how would you dose the T3????
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigironkiller View Post
    if you stacked it with T3, how would you dose the T3????
    Clenbuterol

    Check out z06 post, he was kind enough to lay me out a plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holyintellect View Post
    I would NOT use liquid clen that was two years old...tabs would be another story.
    why not?
    i would think the worst case senario is it's lost some of it's potency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprucelee78 View Post
    Can anyone tell me where to buy legit Clen I bought some from AG-GUYS and it isnt doing anything. I had some before from a friend and had effects from it quickly. So Im pretty sure their stuff is fake. Any help would be greatly appreciated
    You need to edit your post. Your not allowed to ask for or discuss sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hank Vangut View Post
    why not?
    i would think the worst case senario is it's lost some of it's potency.
    Because I am in the chemical field, and I used to be in the "supplement business"....Its hard to explain without saying too many things I shouldnt and throwing people under the bus....
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