bigzach1234
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Im kind of new to the supplement write up thing, so I will keep this as informative yet unlengthy as possible.
Cycle info: Trenadrol-60/90/90/90/90/120
Past ph/ds: epistane up to 50mg 3.5 weeks, methylvol 2 weeks 10mg
starting weight: 193-13.3%bf
finishing weight: 199 11.1%bf
Workout: Article Details basically all the most basic compound movements, nothing special, heavy weight with 8 reps
Cardio: Varies.. 3 times a week roughly..... i did the basic running and treadmill thing occasionally, but i did alot of punching bag work giant-setted w/ ski jumps over large stepup things, w/ sprints/ with lunges.. i swam at the begining a little also
Strength Gains: working sets of 3x8 on bench: 245x3x8 to 285x3x8
dumbell rows(each arm)-85x3x8 to 115x3x8, db military press 85x3x8 to 105x1x8
support supps: celery seed extract first 5 weeks, hawthorne, fish oil, vitex, b6, p5p
Evaluation: my goal was to get to 200lbs and lean out, I gained 6lbs and lost approx 4lbs of body fat which is a solid 10lb gain. Honestly if i could go back I would probably not have run this cycle more than four weeks, and prob would have went 90mg straight through. Shut down got really bad in the fifth and 6th week, to the point where i didnt want to do any homewrk what so ever and now have to play catch up. Also appetitite began to decrease in the end of the 4th week, but at the begining i was eatting alot. I got to about 202 by the fifth week, but the continued to lean out and keep most of my size. Tren is known for its effects for recomp and strength, and i must say thats exactly what it did. I did not add as much size as with epi but strength gain was incredible and much greater. My muscles now look much denser and more striated then ever, I see muscle fibers and veins that I have never seen in my life and im stronger then ever. I am one week plus into pct which is
Clomid: week 1: day 1: 150mg clomid/60mg torem day 2:75mg clomid/60mg torem day 3: 75 clomid/60mg torem--->50 rest of week
week 2: 50mg
week 3: 50mg
week 4: 25mg
Test boost: Bulgarian tribulis
Various: paravol, feungreek, milk thistle, fish oil, hawthorne, vitex, melotonain
anyone have input on if i shut start cortisol control now or in week 3??
I am still happy to say I am making strength gains into pct and have maintained all my weight, and I actually seem to be looking a litter bigger, could be cause of my sodium intake lately though, I feel great now, boys are back now, they got very small.
Pros: great strength, great recomp, helps increase density of the muscle already exisiting(IF POSSIBLE)
Cons: very harsh running longer then 4 weeks.. bad shut down, lethargy, shrunken balls, sex drive diminished( still able to get up when I was with girls, so no worries for anyone concerned with that, just no libido), drys you out, this can be good or bad, back pumps absolutely crippling at some points, doing legs and back the next day or in either order was terrible.. i actually had to stop squatting after awhile, I was doing working sets with 275-atg squats and on the 7th rep my back just gave out, it was not feeling good going into it, ended up out of the gym for a few days, had to be really careful with all excersises after that, i now strech back before every workout.
overall rating: 7 out of 10
if this helps even one person it was worth it
Cycle info: Trenadrol-60/90/90/90/90/120
Past ph/ds: epistane up to 50mg 3.5 weeks, methylvol 2 weeks 10mg
starting weight: 193-13.3%bf
finishing weight: 199 11.1%bf
Workout: Article Details basically all the most basic compound movements, nothing special, heavy weight with 8 reps
Cardio: Varies.. 3 times a week roughly..... i did the basic running and treadmill thing occasionally, but i did alot of punching bag work giant-setted w/ ski jumps over large stepup things, w/ sprints/ with lunges.. i swam at the begining a little also
Strength Gains: working sets of 3x8 on bench: 245x3x8 to 285x3x8
dumbell rows(each arm)-85x3x8 to 115x3x8, db military press 85x3x8 to 105x1x8
support supps: celery seed extract first 5 weeks, hawthorne, fish oil, vitex, b6, p5p
Evaluation: my goal was to get to 200lbs and lean out, I gained 6lbs and lost approx 4lbs of body fat which is a solid 10lb gain. Honestly if i could go back I would probably not have run this cycle more than four weeks, and prob would have went 90mg straight through. Shut down got really bad in the fifth and 6th week, to the point where i didnt want to do any homewrk what so ever and now have to play catch up. Also appetitite began to decrease in the end of the 4th week, but at the begining i was eatting alot. I got to about 202 by the fifth week, but the continued to lean out and keep most of my size. Tren is known for its effects for recomp and strength, and i must say thats exactly what it did. I did not add as much size as with epi but strength gain was incredible and much greater. My muscles now look much denser and more striated then ever, I see muscle fibers and veins that I have never seen in my life and im stronger then ever. I am one week plus into pct which is
Clomid: week 1: day 1: 150mg clomid/60mg torem day 2:75mg clomid/60mg torem day 3: 75 clomid/60mg torem--->50 rest of week
week 2: 50mg
week 3: 50mg
week 4: 25mg
Test boost: Bulgarian tribulis
Various: paravol, feungreek, milk thistle, fish oil, hawthorne, vitex, melotonain
anyone have input on if i shut start cortisol control now or in week 3??
I am still happy to say I am making strength gains into pct and have maintained all my weight, and I actually seem to be looking a litter bigger, could be cause of my sodium intake lately though, I feel great now, boys are back now, they got very small.
Pros: great strength, great recomp, helps increase density of the muscle already exisiting(IF POSSIBLE)
Cons: very harsh running longer then 4 weeks.. bad shut down, lethargy, shrunken balls, sex drive diminished( still able to get up when I was with girls, so no worries for anyone concerned with that, just no libido), drys you out, this can be good or bad, back pumps absolutely crippling at some points, doing legs and back the next day or in either order was terrible.. i actually had to stop squatting after awhile, I was doing working sets with 275-atg squats and on the 7th rep my back just gave out, it was not feeling good going into it, ended up out of the gym for a few days, had to be really careful with all excersises after that, i now strech back before every workout.
overall rating: 7 out of 10
if this helps even one person it was worth it
