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is there any comparison?
How about sides?
I want the affect of 1gm of test prop so how much 4ad prop will this equate to?
How about sides?
I want the affect of 1gm of test prop so how much 4ad prop will this equate to?
Nobody really knows. There is an in vitro study that showed something like 15% but that doesn't translate into the same thing in a living breathing male. Patrick Arnold believes the conversion rate to be very high (80%+ range). I and others believe it has intrinsic activity, I've done a lot of test and it doesn't "feel" like a high conversion rate but I've gotten good gains.is there any comparison?
How about sides?
I want the affect of 1gm of test prop so how much 4ad prop will this equate to?
Who sells 4ADne? I'd imagine its better because there is more active hormone. Ester always takes away some of the kick.I can't speak to the conversion rate, but I can say that 4AD has some very interesting properties aside from it's conversion.
Also, I have noticed that 4ADne seems to work better for me than the estered versions. I could be that the NE version just kicks in faster and is more noticeable. At any rate, none compares to the real thing.
I don't believe the primary method of action for 4-ad is through conversion. I've done a lot of test over the years and they don't "feel" the same. It certainly isn't as strong as test but I think it is effective and for now being able to avoid 100% of the legal/fake gear hassles is worth the tradeoff.Let's see:
Testosterone Proprionate = actual hormonal analogue with an ester
4AD Proprionate = 4-androstenediol with an ester, which needs to be removed before the 4AD can convert to target hormone testosterone..
There's a big difference, and if someone can show in writing that 4AD prop is comparable/better than test prop, I'll even invest..
I hear so much about it, yet I see no point in certain esterified prohormones.. may as well go all the way, test prop is cheap..
We all have our favorites...Prolangtum and Sldge both seem to like IM 4AD esters. I'd take their word.
UG labs these days make top-notch products, and they're everywhere.. Not to mention, prop by the gram is $0.60..I pay $2.75(US dollars) a gram for 4-ad cypionate powder, you can get test prop for around that much?
UG labs these days make top-notch products, and they're everywhere.. Not to mention, prop by the gram is $0.60..
LOL so true, so true. Bigpetefox has access to all the goodies and prices nowTest base is even cheaper..
Now? You mean last year around this time..LOL so true, so true. Bigpetefox has access to all the goodies and prices now
I can get 5g of test prop (98% pure) for that. There is probably more contamination in PH powder than anything.I don't believe the primary method of action for 4-ad is through conversion. I've done a lot of test over the years and they don't "feel" the same. It certainly isn't as strong as test but I think it is effective and for now being able to avoid 100% of the legal/fake gear hassles is worth the tradeoff.
I pay $2.75(US dollars) a gram for 4-ad cypionate powder, you can get test prop for around that much?
Thank you!The only thing that compares to 1g of test prop is 1g of test prop. If your looking for something similar to 1g of test, then don't look at PH's.
LOL I hear ya bro. Things are just a little easier nowadays. As they should be. I think my grandma wants to be a powder supplier nowNow? You mean last year around this time..
My knowledge of prop/base prices goes along ways back, brother..
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