- 04-16-2009, 08:14 PM
This compound has a high affinity for binding to the progesterone receptors due to the methoxy configuration at the 17 beta position, and a low affinity for binding to androgen receptors.
Will this compound act as a progestin if it binds to the progesterone receptor? For example: ATD can bind to androgen receptors, but this doesn't mean it produces androgenic effects... In fact, ATD can act as an anti-androgen.
- 04-16-2009, 09:34 PM
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04-16-2009, 09:48 PM
im about to be running it or atleast i think so. running trenadrol by kilosport. i havnt heard anything bad about it
04-16-2009, 09:49 PM
well...alrighty then...it is a progestin compound that binds to the progestin receptors. however, just like ATD not producing androgens, it does not produce progestin but it can antagonize the receptors, causing progestin sides. This is why clomid is recommended for PCT. Clomid is more progestin friendly and works better at restoring HPTA function with these compounds.
04-16-2009, 09:57 PM
04-16-2009, 10:01 PM
All SERMs will restore HPTA with any compound, it doesn't matter if it's progestin based or not. And no Nolva will not cause prolactin (i can see this coming)
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ya no...im done with this thread....unsubscribed...tried to help this guy but alls u wanna do is argue...go to bb.com if u wanna fight with people
04-16-2009, 11:24 PM
04-17-2009, 12:03 AM
Trenadrol doesn't actually contain 17-b-methoxy-trienbolone. It contains the same compound as all the other tren products. 17b-methoxy-trienbolone at 30 mg's would not be pleasant. 6-12 mg's would be awesome for strength, high androgenic sides, and LBM gains. Too bad it was pulled from shelves a few years back. Generic Labs' Mega-TRN was the last product to contain this I believe. Now Kilosports just uses it on their label to attract unsuspecting consumers. Real stand up company in my book.
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wud u guys recommend supplements regarding prolactin control during cycle? something like p5p n vitex? thanks.
04-17-2009, 11:51 AM
Actualy guys, hope you dont mind me jumping in, the chemical kilo sports use now, is not the same as the original, the original was supposed to be 17b-methoxy-trienbolone and it WAS dosed at 3mg, however that compound wich wasnt actualy 17b-methoxy-trienbolone but was in fact an unknown compund for all intents and purposes, at least even the manufacturers were not sure what it was, and it is indeed different from the tren products currently available, it was dry, and great for strength gains, similar to Methyl 1-alpha in that department, not much use for gaining mass, but quite good for a recomp. The current estra compound wich is now used by kilo sports trenadrol, is the same as the other tren products available, they have kept the old label as was mentioned earlier on in this thread, but if you notice it is now 30mg not 3, 30mg would be a dangerous and unbearable dose, however considering after recent tests showed it is in fact the estra compound other trens products use such as X-mass, T-roid, and xtreme tren, 30mg is quite mild, and a normal dose.
Methoxy-tren did use the same compound as trenadrol originaly, of course now neither of the original are available as they are banned, and withdrawn from sales, the compound they used 17b-methoxy-trienbolone seemed to only be in the trenadrol, as most people didnt notice a great deal from the ARLI product, However they were supposed to be the same.
As for progestin related side effects, bromocriptine is one of the best to avoid them, as is l-dopa and 1-carboxy, also cabergoline is very effective, and has been mentioned before Clomid is the best choice for any steroid that causes prolactin side effects, Nolva will not touch progestin induced gyno, but clomid can, that is enough reason to me to favour clomid during and after a progestin based steroid compound cycle, i do not want boobies for life, i like them but i dont want any of my own.
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04-17-2009, 04:13 PM
sounds concise. but im dropping my 2 cents in light of a thread i read around a week ago.
apparently 17b-methoxy-trienbolone is not in a fact a real chemical. the whole 'trienblone' thing seems to stump all those who attempt to figure out what actually is. in light of test results recently performed on the current kilosports trenadrol formulation, it was declared that the sample contained a number of compounds, one of which was actual trenbolone. now i read that and said bull**** because there no way it could be bioavailable, but read on to find that trenbolone is actually orally bioavailable, more so than testosterone, though of course no where near as effective as injection. basically, the currently printed nomenclature is just nonsense. the original compound now banned, and dosed at 3mg could not have been what the bottle read either. whatever it was, it was undoubtedly potent and effective, especially dosed at 3mg.
now even after hearing that i still have no clue what to make of the compound. it IS different than prodienolone because there are flocks of people who can distinguish the two compounds from one another in effect like night and day. i dont think there is some bull**** trend going on here convincing the masses via placebo that they are different. i'm still unconvinced. to me its still compound 'x'
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