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    17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone (Trenadrol)

    This compound has a high affinity for binding to the progesterone receptors due to the methoxy configuration at the 17 beta position, and a low affinity for binding to androgen receptors.

    Will this compound act as a progestin if it binds to the progesterone receptor? For example: ATD can bind to androgen receptors, but this doesn't mean it produces androgenic effects... In fact, ATD can act as an anti-androgen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    all you need to know is that it is awesome.
    My buddy is using this compound, not me... I was hoping to give him some info on it next time I talk to him. He's more interested in the science behind it than the consumer feedback.
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    im about to be running it or atleast i think so. running trenadrol by kilosport. i havnt heard anything bad about it
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    well...alrighty then...it is a progestin compound that binds to the progestin receptors. however, just like ATD not producing androgens, it does not produce progestin but it can antagonize the receptors, causing progestin sides. This is why clomid is recommended for PCT. Clomid is more progestin friendly and works better at restoring HPTA function with these compounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    well...alrighty then...it is a progestin compound that binds to the progestin receptors. however, just like ATD not producing androgens, it does not produce progestin but it can antagonize the receptors, causing progestin sides. This is why clomid is recommended for PCT. Clomid is more progestin friendly and works better at restoring HPTA function with these compounds.
    Should he not be taking ATD with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    well...alrighty then...it is a progestin compound that binds to the progestin receptors. however, just like ATD not producing androgens, it does not produce progestin but it can antagonize the receptors, causing progestin sides. This is why clomid is recommended for PCT. Clomid is more progestin friendly and works better at restoring HPTA function with these compounds.
    Trenadrol activate the PR which will cause progetin sides, i dunno what you mean by "does not produce progestin."

    All SERMs will restore HPTA with any compound, it doesn't matter if it's progestin based or not. And no Nolva will not cause prolactin (i can see this coming)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone (Trenadrol)

    This compound has a high affinity for binding to the progesterone receptors due to the methoxy configuration at the 17 beta position, and a low affinity for binding to androgen receptors.

    Will this compound act as a progestin if it binds to the progesterone receptor? For example: ATD can bind to androgen receptors, but this doesn't mean it produces androgenic effects... In fact, ATD can act as an anti-androgen.
    Where did you read that tren doesn't bind to the AR

    and dude, stop saying ATD is anti androgen like it's a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    Where did you read that tren doesn't bind to the AR

    and dude, stop saying ATD is anti androgen like it's a bad thing.
    Seriously, stop posting on this board if you aren't willing to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    Trenadrol activate the PR which will cause progetin sides, i dunno what you mean by "does not produce progestin."

    All SERMs will restore HPTA with any compound, it doesn't matter if it's progestin based or not. And no Nolva will not cause prolactin (i can see this coming)
    what i mean is it does not produce progestin as a compound itself...it merely just antagonizes. and YES nolva can induce prolactin sides when used with prolactin compounds. Clomid is more friendly to these compounds and is just the better choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    what i mean is it does not produce progestin as a compound itself...it merely just antagonizes. and YES nolva can induce prolactin sides when used with prolactin compounds. Clomid is more friendly to these compounds and is just the better choice.
    You mean progestrone, not progestin.

    Your info is wrong, Nolva will not activate the PR. Upregulating somthing is different than activating it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    Seriously, stop posting on this board if you aren't willing to learn.
    Funny, I thought the same thing about your posts. Please, instead of your attitude, try and look into more information other than just typing stuff you don't even understand yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    You mean progestrone, not progestin.

    Your info is wrong, Nolva will not activate the PR.
    You mean progesterone, not progestrone...

    C'mon, you could be using this information to your advantage... Instead you choose ignorance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    You mean progesterone, not progestrone...

    C'mon, you could be using this information to your advantage... Instead you choose ignorance!
    Oh, typos are ignorance now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    where is crazyfool when u need him...
    You don't need crazy fool, research yourself instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    You don't need crazy fool, research yourself instead.
    wow someone is a little bit of an ass. no its because everything i have learned, i have learned from him
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    ya no...im done with this thread....unsubscribed...tried to help this guy but alls u wanna do is argue...go to bb.com if u wanna fight with people
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    ya no...im done with this thread....unsubscribed...tried to help this guy but alls u wanna do is argue...go to bb.com if u wanna fight with people
    I wasn't trying to be an ass, or fighting with you, that's immature. I was just implying what i learnt from here, other boards and research, not just copying what other said knowning nothing about the reasoning behind it.

    I guess you have a short fuse
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    Trenadrol doesn't actually contain 17-b-methoxy-trienbolone. It contains the same compound as all the other tren products. 17b-methoxy-trienbolone at 30 mg's would not be pleasant. 6-12 mg's would be awesome for strength, high androgenic sides, and LBM gains. Too bad it was pulled from shelves a few years back. Generic Labs' Mega-TRN was the last product to contain this I believe. Now Kilosports just uses it on their label to attract unsuspecting consumers. Real stand up company in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indianballer View Post
    Trenadrol doesn't actually contain 17-b-methoxy-trienbolone. It contains the same compound as all the other tren products. 17b-methoxy-trienbolone at 30 mg's would not be pleasant. 6-12 mg's would be awesome for strength, high androgenic sides, and LBM gains. Too bad it was pulled from shelves a few years back. Generic Labs' Mega-TRN was the last product to contain this I believe. Now Kilosports just uses it on their label to attract unsuspecting consumers. Real stand up company in my book.
    ??????????????????? WTF????????? 17b-methoxy-trienbolone is not an actual compound....it is impossible for a compound to have that nomemclature. I dont know how many time I have to state this....but we all know that 17b-methoxy-trienbolone is just a trade mark name that Kilosports use for trenadrol. Also it DOES NOT contain the same "tren" compound as the other tren product. This is a whole different beast.
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    prolactin control???


    wud u guys recommend supplements regarding prolactin control during cycle? something like p5p n vitex? thanks.
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    Actualy guys, hope you dont mind me jumping in, the chemical kilo sports use now, is not the same as the original, the original was supposed to be 17b-methoxy-trienbolone and it WAS dosed at 3mg, however that compound wich wasnt actualy 17b-methoxy-trienbolone but was in fact an unknown compund for all intents and purposes, at least even the manufacturers were not sure what it was, and it is indeed different from the tren products currently available, it was dry, and great for strength gains, similar to Methyl 1-alpha in that department, not much use for gaining mass, but quite good for a recomp. The current estra compound wich is now used by kilo sports trenadrol, is the same as the other tren products available, they have kept the old label as was mentioned earlier on in this thread, but if you notice it is now 30mg not 3, 30mg would be a dangerous and unbearable dose, however considering after recent tests showed it is in fact the estra compound other trens products use such as X-mass, T-roid, and xtreme tren, 30mg is quite mild, and a normal dose.
    Methoxy-tren did use the same compound as trenadrol originaly, of course now neither of the original are available as they are banned, and withdrawn from sales, the compound they used 17b-methoxy-trienbolone seemed to only be in the trenadrol, as most people didnt notice a great deal from the ARLI product, However they were supposed to be the same.

    As for progestin related side effects, bromocriptine is one of the best to avoid them, as is l-dopa and 1-carboxy, also cabergoline is very effective, and has been mentioned before Clomid is the best choice for any steroid that causes prolactin side effects, Nolva will not touch progestin induced gyno, but clomid can, that is enough reason to me to favour clomid during and after a progestin based steroid compound cycle, i do not want boobies for life, i like them but i dont want any of my own.
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    sounds concise. but im dropping my 2 cents in light of a thread i read around a week ago.

    apparently 17b-methoxy-trienbolone is not in a fact a real chemical. the whole 'trienblone' thing seems to stump all those who attempt to figure out what actually is. in light of test results recently performed on the current kilosports trenadrol formulation, it was declared that the sample contained a number of compounds, one of which was actual trenbolone. now i read that and said bull**** because there no way it could be bioavailable, but read on to find that trenbolone is actually orally bioavailable, more so than testosterone, though of course no where near as effective as injection. basically, the currently printed nomenclature is just nonsense. the original compound now banned, and dosed at 3mg could not have been what the bottle read either. whatever it was, it was undoubtedly potent and effective, especially dosed at 3mg.

    now even after hearing that i still have no clue what to make of the compound. it IS different than prodienolone because there are flocks of people who can distinguish the two compounds from one another in effect like night and day. i dont think there is some bull**** trend going on here convincing the masses via placebo that they are different. i'm still unconvinced. to me its still compound 'x'
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanyK View Post
    sounds concise. but im dropping my 2 cents in light of a thread i read around a week ago.

    apparently 17b-methoxy-trienbolone is not in a fact a real chemical. the whole 'trienblone' thing seems to stump all those who attempt to figure out what actually is. in light of test results recently performed on the current kilosports trenadrol formulation, it was declared that the sample contained a number of compounds, one of which was actual trenbolone. now i read that and said bull**** because there no way it could be bioavailable, but read on to find that trenbolone is actually orally bioavailable, more so than testosterone, though of course no where near as effective as injection. basically, the currently printed nomenclature is just nonsense. the original compound now banned, and dosed at 3mg could not have been what the bottle read either. whatever it was, it was undoubtedly potent and effective, especially dosed at 3mg.

    now even after hearing that i still have no clue what to make of the compound. it IS different than prodienolone because there are flocks of people who can distinguish the two compounds from one another in effect like night and day. i dont think there is some bull**** trend going on here convincing the masses via placebo that they are different. i'm still unconvinced. to me its still compound 'x'
    I do agree, it does seem that the original formula was not what we were told, i did read a report myself on the study revealing that trenadrol did contain trenbolone, Im not convinced as even though it does have some oral biovailability, i cant see from any research ive done on trenbolone that 1-3mg oraly administered would cause the effects users saw, i think that it may well have been a colabiration of chemicals, nevertheless, trenadrol did work, and a lot of users liked it, so i agree, lets call it compound x, maybe one day somone will shed factual evidence as to what it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    I do agree, it does seem that the original formula was not what we were told, i did read a report myself on the study revealing that trenadrol did contain trenbolone, Im not convinced as even though it does have some oral biovailability, i cant see from any research ive done on trenbolone that 1-3mg oraly administered would cause the effects users saw, i think that it may well have been a colabiration of chemicals, nevertheless, trenadrol did work, and a lot of users liked it, so i agree, lets call it compound x, maybe one day somone will shed factual evidence as to what it was.
    Agreed. Compound X it is.

    Also, one of the member on bb is going to test out some trenadrol pills to try and find out what compound X really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big3upgrade View Post
    Agreed. Compound X it is.

    Also, one of the member on bb is going to test out some trenadrol pills to try and find out what compound X really is.
    Can you keep me updated, i would be extremely interested, thanks buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Can you keep me updated, i would be extremely interested, thanks buddy.
    same here. in fact my next cycle wud be phera-trenadrol. im really interested in knowing what compund x actually is. frankly speaking.. i dont think we will ever come to know what compound x actually is.
    thanks.
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    compound x it most certainly is
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfreak2 View Post
    wud u guys recommend supplements regarding prolactin control during cycle? something like p5p n vitex? thanks.
    Yes, that would work, i usually run b6 at 200mg-300 during and Vitex or L-Dopa in PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    Yes, that would work, i usually run b6 at 200mg-300 during and Vitex or L-Dopa in PCT.
    You may want to consider 1-carboxy instead of l-dopa. Pick up P-5-P instead of B6.
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    If its just 19N, I would go with the current TD, if its not, well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Can you keep me updated, i would be extremely interested, thanks buddy.
    For sure bro. The guy thats testing it should get his sample sometime next week and will have the results by the end of next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    You may want to consider 1-carboxy instead of l-dopa. Pick up P-5-P instead of B6.
    Um, no.
    I searched alot before about 1-carboxy-2-amino.... and actually found nothing. So i'll stick to L-dopa for the time being unless you can give me a link to read.


    I'm taking p5p right now for my cycle, i just had too much b6 in the past i wanted to get rid of.
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    carboxy is great for sleep as well, really good stuff all around. i'll try and find something for you to look at
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    Um, no.
    I searched alot before about 1-carboxy-2-amino.... and actually found nothing. So i'll stick to L-dopa for the time being unless you can give me a link to read.


    I'm taking p5p right now for my cycle, i just had too much b6 in the past i wanted to get rid of.
    1-carboxy is the concentrated form of l-dopa so umm yes its better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    1-carboxy is the concentrated form of l-dopa so umm yes its better.
    Concentrated form? You mean 100% L-dopa? Any research on the 1-carboxy? umm Link me, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Problem View Post
    Concentrated form? You mean 100% L-dopa? Any research on the 1-carboxy? umm Link me, please?
    Il find something now, but they take the active out of l-dopa = 1-carboxy...but hold on il link something.
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