Best Oral (Legal or Non) to Stack With Sustanon 250 for 8-12 Weeks?

**AmericnMuscle** · 04-14-2009, 07:27 AM

I'm planning on a lean bulk, however, it seems almost impossible to gain absolutely no fat whatsoever while bulking. I'll be using Napalm and liquid Clen while on-cycle, then Eviscerate/DCP/Leviathan Reloaded during PCT. Here are what I'm wanting to dramatically improve throughout my cycle; weight, strength and vascularity. Any suggestions as to what oral(s) would be beneficial to stack with Sus 250 would be greatly appreciated. If you could state your reasoning as to whatever you suggest, especially if you have experience with stacking particular injectables and orals together.

**bigzach1234** · 04-14-2009, 08:26 AM

d-bol.. its a standard bread and butter stack that will slap on mass with a proper diet
or
superdrol- depending on how u react..most ppl get very dry gains which is completely opposite to the dbols, but quality gains, with test helping ease some of the side effects.

**keys3411** · 04-14-2009, 11:16 AM

what he said....i was thinking Dbol or superdrol for the first few weeks,crazy gains...

**tattoopierced1** · 04-14-2009, 01:13 PM

Liquidrone for the first 4 weeks would be awesome

http://advancedmusclescience.com/products/liquidrone/

**Liftingstud** · 04-14-2009, 03:54 PM

dbol will blow u up not sure that's what your looking for... Have u ever run test before? If not might want to just run the sus... But maybe hdrol can run it for 6 wks or so and def leans u out... SD possibly but sides suck... PP possibly but some report it being wet others get dry gains (diet usually the key)... Maybe Epi since mild and can run longer and gains are dry. If it was the old days u could go 1AD which would be nice... Just some ideas

**bigzach1234** · 04-15-2009, 03:18 AM

Imo if ur gonna run epi u should use it the last week of your cycle and for the three weeks leading up to pct while waiting for the longer test esters to clear

**player** · 04-16-2009, 11:37 PM

I am running dbol right now with OTC Novedex XT to keep it dry and it is working well. No noticeable water, some lean gains. Steady strength gains.

**raginfcktard** · 04-16-2009, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by player

I am running dbol right now with OTC Novedex XT to keep it dry and it is working well. No noticeable water, some lean gains. Steady strength gains.

how much XT you taking?

**player** · 04-16-2009, 11:49 PM

Been taking three caps ED, 1 am and 2 PM.

**raginfcktard** · 04-17-2009, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by player

Been taking three caps ED, 1 am and 2 PM.

i got rebound sides from what your doing fyi. i was taking other stuff but those 2 are what did it...be careful bro!

**Irish Cannon** · 04-17-2009, 01:13 AM

P-Plex! Out of all the orals I've tried, legal and illegal, PP has packed me with the most mass...and Dbol is included in there.

**raginfcktard** · 04-17-2009, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Irish Cannon

P-Plex! Out of all the orals I've tried, legal and illegal, PP has packed me with the most mass...and Dbol is included in there.

i've yet to try phera...i just here its very wet. it may find a place in a near future cycle as a kicker. i agree with the dbol...hit or miss with that crap. best ones i ever got imo are still the 5mg pentagons...out of all doses and labs!

have you tried 3ad cannon?

**Irish Cannon** · 04-17-2009, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by raginfcktard

have you tried 3ad cannon?

Nope. Is it worth it?

**raginfcktard** · 04-17-2009, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Irish Cannon

Nope. Is it worth it?

nope...thats why i ask lol. i was wanting the non-methyl so i can stay on what i am just to see if i pick up some gain and switch. what is your clone choice?

**Irish Cannon** · 04-17-2009, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by raginfcktard

nope...thats why i ask lol. i was wanting the non-methyl so i can stay on what i am just to see if i pick up some gain and switch. what is your clone choice?

I've never used a clone, only original Phera, but I'd go with P-Plex. I don't think I've heard any complaints about it not being legit.

**Liftingstud** · 04-17-2009, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by raginfcktard

i've yet to try phera...i just here its very wet. it may find a place in a near future cycle as a kicker. i agree with the dbol...hit or miss with that crap. best ones i ever got imo are still the 5mg pentagons...out of all doses and labs!

have you tried 3ad cannon?

I have heard both about pp being wet and dry... I think it depends on diet... Can tell u I ran SD twice with bulking diet vs recomp/cut... Bulking blew me up 25 lbs with water retension... Recomp was more dry lean gains.

**player** · 04-17-2009, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by raginfcktard

i got rebound sides from what your doing fyi. i was taking other stuff but those 2 are what did it...be careful bro!

What kind of rebound sides did you have? Got a better suggestion?

**ibanezman08** · 04-17-2009, 11:29 PM

you want to improve weight strength, vascularity = anadrol!

**washingtonirvin** · 04-17-2009, 11:37 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't EQ just about the best thing out there for vascularity?

**Irish Cannon** · 04-17-2009, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by washingtonirvin

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't EQ just about the best thing out there for vascularity?

Better off with Tren.

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