Poll: do you think 1-test is at least 2x as anabolic as test on a mg per mg basis?

In terms of gains, not even close.
 
Then, what about those studies that showed esterless injectable 1-test to be, on a mg per mg basis, 200% as anabolic as test propionate and 700% as anabolic as esterless injectable test?
 
neurotic said:
Then, what about those studies that showed esterless injectable 1-test to be, on a mg per mg basis, 200% as anabolic as test propionate and 700% as anabolic as esterless injectable test?
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Because assays done on rats sometimes means jack **** in the real worl in terms of gains in man.
 
Bobo said:
Because assays done on rats sometimes means jack **** in the real worl in terms of gains in man.
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Then, how would you know to what extent a steroid is anabolic or androgenic, when there are many steroids that don't have those studies done in men?
 
Use them. I've done both of those and in terms of gains its not even close. So whatever the assay says (which really only determines dosages in rats) the results in man do not often resemble the ratio that is sated in Vida or whatever study you would like to quote. Thats why I said, in terms of gains.
 
here is the way you should look at it. if you took 700mg of test cyp, is it the same as 100mg of 1-test cyp. NO. so it isnt seven times stronger. But is 300mg of 1 test better then 300mg of test, it might be. it is probably only stronger in smaller doses. I tried 800mg of 1 test per week and it didnt do anything more then the 400 did. but there is a huge difference bettwen 400 and 800 mg of test cyp.

That is how i would look at it. not everything can be done according to Vida, its a good ref point, but for the real world only real world results matter. IMO.
 
yes, i wouldnt waste my time on an oral or transdermal. I dont like the idea of taking 5000mg transdermal so I can get a usable 800mg per week. Esters are made for injection, at least that is how I feel.
 
Designer Supps said:
yes, i wouldnt waste my time on an oral or transdermal. I dont like the idea of taking 5000mg transdermal so I can get a usable 800mg per week. Esters are made for injection, at least that is how I feel.
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If you inject 1-test you must be a brave soul. How do you take the burning?
:)
 
Is it burn free because of some chemical tweaking or is the burning caused by some contaminant (which is not present in Designers cyp)?
 
MarcusG said:
Is it burn free because of some chemical tweaking or is the burning caused by some contaminant (which is not present in Designers cyp)?
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No , as far as i know it doesn't burn cause it is above 98% pure!
 
I also believe it's because of the ester. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that makes it more lyphophillic, absorbing into adipose tissue easier.
 
N4cer said:
I also believe it's because of the ester. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that makes it more lyphophillic, absorbing into adipose tissue easier.
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thats why, it has nothing to do with purity
 
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