First cycle of deca/test

[CEverii]

Alright so i think that i have my first cycle all planned out. Just wanted to see what you guys thought. And i know, this is a very low dose. Not looking for HUGE gains.
10 weeks
250mg/week deca
250mg/week test e

PCR:
Clomid 50mg/day for 4 weeks, 3 weeks after last deca injection
Nolva 20mg/day for 4 weeks, 3 weeks after last deca injection, or sooner if i see symptoms of gyno.

well, what you guys think?

 

[faceman35]

you are not lying that it is a low dose. What type of gains are you expecting?

 

[freqfly]

Scrap the deca, run test 500mg for 10 weeks. Nolva only for PCT 40/40/20/20. Perfect for a first cycle bro.

 

[faceman35]

Scrap the deca, run test 500mg for 10 weeks. Nolva only for PCT 40/40/20/20. Perfect for a first cycle bro.

I would probably have to agree with freqfly. But what type of gains do you want? You know 250mg of test is what is used for trt. You wont get a whole lot of gains except probably higher sex drive.

 

[jay21]

test need to be 400-500/wk and deca...... is inside the cycle for the dry leaning effect, tests tends to bloat and the whole water retension. i think its a good basic cycle

 

[Frank Reynolds]

You know 250mg of test is what is used for trt. You wont get a whole lot of gains except probably higher sex drive.

250mg/wk is a pretty "generous" TRT dose. That would bring most people above range. For most TRT is more inline with 100-150mg/wk.

 

[Frank Reynolds]

test need to be 400-500/wk and deca...... is inside the cycle for the dry leaning effect,

Deca gives you a dry leaning effect? It has the exact opposite effect on me..lol

 

[Smiley]

250mg/wk is a pretty "generous" TRT dose. That would bring most people above range. For most TRT is more inline with 100-150mg/wk.

Agreed. I have a study saved where 300mg/week is averaged to be 1345ng/dl. Thats WAY above a trt.

Not saying you shouldnt use more test though :laugh:

 

[faceman35]

my doctor prescribed me 200mg of test cyp for trt

 

[Frank Reynolds]

my doctor prescribed me 200mg of test cyp for trt

And what is your total test coming back at, on that dose?

Also consider yourself "lucky"

 

[faceman35]

well considering I lost my health insurance a month after getting that prescription we will probably never know. I never actually started it. I knew I was going to do a cycle in 2.5 months so I did not want to start then and then start a real cycle and be on test for 20+ weeks.

 

[thelix]

Hey guys,

Not to hijack the post here, but I am planning a similar first 10 week cycle with Deca, but using Sustanon250 intead of Test E both on 250mg/week.

Would the Sust work better for a 1st cycle and yield same results as the Test-E ?

I am also considering running Winny on the last 5 weeks, instead of Deca, but I am not sure if Deca for 5 weeks only gives you any result.

Any experienced comments here are highly appreciated.

 

[faceman35]

5'8 161???? How long you been lifting for? You would probably want to put some more weight on and get your training and diet down first.

 

[jay21]

imo i really think test needs to be shot at 250mg 2x a week but im bigger dude 235lbs. umm never really used deca...... but istn it dry gains? i was sure it is since i seen it used during diet cycles along primabolan and winstrol

 

[Zero V]

imo i really think test needs to be shot at 250mg 2x a week but im bigger dude 235lbs. umm never really used deca...... but istn it dry gains? i was sure it is since i seen it used during diet cycles along primabolan and winstrol

I always thought Deca was wet?

 

[SeanyK]

guys... its 19-nor, a progestin therefore stimulates the progesterone receptors, converts to estrogen at 20% that of test. you'll bloat for sure. AI for sure too.

 

[jay21]

kk i just looked up deca and it is, wet it can be used for cuttin and bulking but is known for water retention huh.... interesting

 

[thelix]

5'8 161???? How long you been lifting for? You would probably want to put some more weight on and get your training and diet down first.

I have been lifting on and off for over 15 years. The thing is I have a high rate metabolism so I am pretty lean (10-12% bf) and it is hard for me to put on weight.

I have my diet down after calculating my calories for bulking at 60/30/10, and I my training is a 5-day on 2-day off, one muscle group a day, hitting them pretty hard. During this cycle, I will up the cals even more for sure.

I guess I am pretty well conditioned, got a few ph and pro-steroids in my belt (pplex, mdrol, mmv2), so I should be ready to try this cycle.

Sorry for getting side tracked here...

 

[EVILADAMS]

Deca IMO is awesome. I had very little bloat and zero sides. Run Deca 400-600mg/week. Broken up into 2 shots. Stack it with the same amount of Test E or Sustanon 250 twice a week. I hated Test E ( terrible back acne and nuts shrunk bad). Sustanon was pretty good, no real complaints except it raised my blood pressure.

 

[ANDRO1]

Scrap the deca, run test 500mg for 10 weeks. Nolva only for PCT 40/40/20/20. Perfect for a first cycle bro.

I second that