First cycle of deca/test
- 04-07-2009, 10:39 AM
First cycle of deca/test
Alright so i think that i have my first cycle all planned out. Just wanted to see what you guys thought. And i know, this is a very low dose. Not looking for HUGE gains.
250mg/week test e
Clomid 50mg/day for 4 weeks, 3 weeks after last deca injection
Nolva 20mg/day for 4 weeks, 3 weeks after last deca injection, or sooner if i see symptoms of gyno.
well, what you guys think?
- 04-07-2009, 02:55 PM
you are not lying that it is a low dose. What type of gains are you expecting?
- 04-07-2009, 08:37 PM
Scrap the deca, run test 500mg for 10 weeks. Nolva only for PCT 40/40/20/20. Perfect for a first cycle bro.
04-08-2009, 09:05 AM
04-08-2009, 09:44 AM
test need to be 400-500/wk and deca...... is inside the cycle for the dry leaning effect, tests tends to bloat and the whole water retension. i think its a good basic cycle
04-08-2009, 11:34 AM
04-08-2009, 11:37 AM
04-08-2009, 11:42 AM
04-08-2009, 12:09 PM
my doctor prescribed me 200mg of test cyp for trt
04-08-2009, 12:15 PM
04-08-2009, 01:07 PM
well considering I lost my health insurance a month after getting that prescription we will probably never know. I never actually started it. I knew I was going to do a cycle in 2.5 months so I did not want to start then and then start a real cycle and be on test for 20+ weeks.
04-08-2009, 01:44 PM
Not to hijack the post here, but I am planning a similar first 10 week cycle with Deca, but using Sustanon250 intead of Test E both on 250mg/week.
Would the Sust work better for a 1st cycle and yield same results as the Test-E ?
I am also considering running Winny on the last 5 weeks, instead of Deca, but I am not sure if Deca for 5 weeks only gives you any result.
Any experienced comments here are highly appreciated.
04-08-2009, 02:02 PM
5'8 161???? How long you been lifting for? You would probably want to put some more weight on and get your training and diet down first.
04-08-2009, 02:08 PM
imo i really think test needs to be shot at 250mg 2x a week but im bigger dude 235lbs. umm never really used deca...... but istn it dry gains? i was sure it is since i seen it used during diet cycles along primabolan and winstrol
04-08-2009, 02:17 PM
04-08-2009, 02:52 PM
guys... its 19-nor, a progestin therefore stimulates the progesterone receptors, converts to estrogen at 20% that of test. you'll bloat for sure. AI for sure too.
04-08-2009, 03:02 PM
kk i just looked up deca and it is, wet it can be used for cuttin and bulking but is known for water retention huh.... interesting
04-08-2009, 03:26 PM
I have my diet down after calculating my calories for bulking at 60/30/10, and I my training is a 5-day on 2-day off, one muscle group a day, hitting them pretty hard. During this cycle, I will up the cals even more for sure.
I guess I am pretty well conditioned, got a few ph and pro-steroids in my belt (pplex, mdrol, mmv2), so I should be ready to try this cycle.
Sorry for getting side tracked here...
04-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Deca IMO is awesome. I had very little bloat and zero sides. Run Deca 400-600mg/week. Broken up into 2 shots. Stack it with the same amount of Test E or Sustanon 250 twice a week. I hated Test E ( terrible back acne and nuts shrunk bad). Sustanon was pretty good, no real complaints except it raised my blood pressure.
It's hard to concentrate when I can hear your thoughts.
04-08-2009, 04:40 PM
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