I'll start with the situation then give background (for those looking to skim through):
Last night on Day 4 of a Havoc cycle (30mg ED) i get the feeling the estrogen fairy is visiting, squeeze the nips and bam! Oily discharge my friends! Not gyno as theres no hard tissue, no sensitivity either. Hit the nolva (40mg) right away, went to bed. 20 mg again this morning, stopped the epi needless to say. And now the discharge has completely stopped.
ran a cycle of havoc in Jan 20/30/30/30, Cycle support, support supps etc.
4 weeks PCT: Tamoxifen 40/40/20/20
4 weeks clean: Lean Extreme 4/4/3/2
Toward the end of the Jan cycle (actually started last week of dec. to be exact) i started getting estrogen signs, puffy and sensitive nips, again no hard/firm tissue. Started PCT and the symptoms stopped.
Now here's the thing, may be coincidence, but right around the time the estrogen **** started on the jan cycle was when i popped a fresh bottle of havoc. Used this same bottle for the start of this cycle. Immediately after starting this cycle (this monday) signs started appearing again (water retention especially in the lower back and chest).
Seems far-fetched but is it bunk havoc? is there such thing? Really pisses me off because i was stoked for this and dropped a good deal of cash. I may have been a little eager and not taken enough time off which may have been foolish. I'm off now but I'd like some input from some experienced AM members...happy to answer additional questions...thanks