fina conversion i found on another board.
- 12-24-2003, 11:41 AM
fina conversion i found on another board.
does this look safe to you guys, it doesnt seem like there is enough sterilization going on... let me know your thoughts. this guy says he does it this way so he wont have to buy a kit.
Two cycles ago, I was recommended a method to prep the Fina tablets for injection without the kits since I was too impatient to wait for it (If I remembered who he was, I'd give him credit). I found it to be flawed but I perfected it on my own and I have come to firmly believe that the kit is bull**** and my method is both more convenient, easier to get an accurate dosage, and just plain more fun! I've never had a problem with clogging, infection, or anything else that may be associated with glues, dyes and such.
For my method you will need the following items:
-Everclear alcohol (found at any liquor store)
-Sesame Seed oil (found at some gnc's, supermarkets, health food stores, or chinese restaurants)
-Some adhesive tape
-A cart of Fina
-Access to an oven and microwave
-A box of 22-23g syringes and needles (I recommend buying syringes and needles seperately as you will soon see)
-A medium sized pot
Step 1 - Begin by using the toothpick to poke the Fina tabs from the top out the bottom. Since they are equal to 20mg per tablet, you can prepare one shot with as much fina in it as you wish. For the sake of this thread, I will use 80mg (4 fina tabs).
Step 2 - Take your straw and seal off one end by folding it and taping it closed. Seal it well so you it won't allow fina to get stuck in the creavices. Throw the tabs in the open end of the straw and fold over the other end leaving about 2.5 inches to crush the pellets between each end. Make a nice powder. The more it's crushed, the easier Step 4 will be.
Step 3 - Open up a new syringe and pull out the plunger. Pour the crushed fina pellets into the syringe from the straw and place the plunger back on. Place a needle (if it isn't already on) on the syringe and pull enough Everclear alcohol to cover the powder and no more. Don't worry--If you put too much, it will hurt when you inject but it won't ruin the shot at all. If you are using 80mg, the alcohol should come up to the first line on the syringe.
Step 4 - Put the pot filled with water on the stove and heat till it's hot but not boiling. When the water is ready, hold the syringe with the fina/everclear solution by the capped needle and stir the entire syringe in the water so it will heat up and dissolve. The mix should turn from cloudy yellow to cloudy brown.
Step 5 - put some sesame seed oil in the shotglass and microwave it for about a minute till it's very hot, to disinfect. Uncap your syringe with fina/everclear and pull 1 cc of sesame seed oil.
Step 6 - Pull another half cc or so of air just to leave space between the top and the fina. Take off the needle and place the syringe, plunger down, in the clean shotglass so it won't fall over. Put this in the microwave and nuke for about 30-60 seconds till it bubbles.
Step 7 - Now you have two choices. You can either wait for it too cool off before using a new needle and injecting or storing it and making more so you have them ready to use when it's time to inject. If you store them away, store them with a capped needle in a dark place and get rid of that extra space in the needle. When it's time to inject after storage, start from step 6 and right before you inject, flick the syringe a few times to disperse the fina around. This will make sure you inject it all and none is left in the needle or stuck to the rubber stopper on the plunger.
This is my 2nd cycle (12 weeks total EOD) using this method and I'm quite happy with how it works. Plus it makes me feel like Julia Childs! I know there will be flames but I really think the kit is overkill and people are just paranoid. Glues and dies are not to be worried over.
Last edited by good_guye28; 12-24-2003 at 12:17 PM.
- 12-24-2003, 11:57 AM
That sounds a little risky IMO. The whole process sounds like most with the exclusion on heating and filtration. I would rather spend a few extra bucks on filters and take a few more minutes to be sure it's clean. Then again, I've never done the sh!t, so this is JMO.
12-24-2003, 12:32 PM
12-24-2003, 01:44 PM
That may be the stupidest thing i've read to date on the boards, Actually i feel stupider just for waisting 3 minutes reading that.
12-24-2003, 01:51 PM
This is crazy, you're gonna be injecting the fina, binders, and grain alcohol into your body without BA or sterile filtering. I totally agree with Matthew D, anyone who does this is asking for a nice fat abcess.
12-24-2003, 04:20 PM
that is what i was thinking, ABCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is the reason i keep all questions on anything to this board. i couldnt believe what i was reading that is why i had to show you guys.......
12-24-2003, 05:26 PM
It's great that you saw some health issues in doing this and to get a second opinion before trying it yourself. What really scares me is that some 16yr old noob will try this in an effort to save a few bucks and really **** himself up. I'm sure we all need moņe bad press about the dangers of AAS.
12-24-2003, 11:00 PM
01-09-2004, 11:17 AM
01-09-2004, 11:32 AM
That is so insane. He's going to need way more Everclear than that because he's going to need to flush out a lot of abscesses once he starts using it.
And I want to let anyone who hasnt done there own conversions that microwaving something just to heat it isnt what sterilizes your gear.... we bake it at 250 degrees for 15 minutes and then cool in the fridge for 15 minutes 3 times.... it's the rapid heating and cooling process that kills bacteria that is too small to be caught by a whatman filter.
01-09-2004, 11:38 AM
EXACTLY! It's not the heat...it's the rapid change in temperature that the pathogens can't survive.Originally Posted by Bouncer79
Great reply Bouncer!
01-11-2004, 10:30 PM
Lookin down on a valley of cows the lil bull says let's go down an f%#k one of'em ! The ol'skool bull says let's walk down an f%#k'em all...........
05-24-2005, 12:33 PM
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