- 12-22-2003, 04:07 PM
- 12-22-2003, 06:32 PM
Bro they say stack it with test because of fina dick. 4ad would be ok but I'd rather run test. 1test would not be smart.
- 12-22-2003, 06:35 PM
I would definitely NOT use 1-test with fina. Both compounds are very suppresive and recovery may be hard. In fact, test (or 4-AD) is usually stacked with 1-test to overcome its sides. 4-AD cyp/prop may be a good substitute for real test.
Just curious, why not just use real test. If you can do a fina conversion, you should be able to do a syno conversion. Results will prolly be better with real test.
12-23-2003, 05:23 AM
I will probably try the syno conversion. It is like the first time I did a fina conversion(I was very unsure of myself).After the first time then I saw how easy it really is. Thanks for the help guys.
12-23-2003, 05:37 AM
Pinnable (is that a word?) 4AD is quite cheap, and sold ready to go legally. Legal to buy, not to pin. Got 50ml 4ADcyp/4ADprop 300mg/100mg (/ml) (20g total) in sterile oil for $100. Now if you convert syno flawlessly you end up with 20g test prop for $200, so if Test prop is more than 2X effective than 4AD and you don't mind doing the conversion, then it's a better deal.
12-27-2003, 04:10 PM
This will be the first time I've used fina, so I'm looking for opinions on this one.
25mg dbol---week 1-6
75mg fina ed ---week 6-10
40mg nolva ed---week 10-12
400mg 6oxo ed--week 10-12
Any suggestions on this?
12-27-2003, 05:15 PM
Fina alone is never recommended due to its sides (aka fina-dick). As a general rule, test should be the base of every cycle. Fina takes approximately 4 weeks to kick in so your cycle would end before you saw any benefits from the fina.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
A good basic fina cycle would be:
Weeks 1-8 test 500mg EW (usually prop @ ~150mg EOD)
Weeks 1-8 fina 75mg EOD
Weeks 9-10 Nolva 40mg ED
Weeks 11-12 Nolva 20mg ED
You can add dbol if you want and you can go ED on the fina but EOD shot are much easier. Next cycle, you can up the dosage on the fina to maybe 100-150mg EOD.
12-27-2003, 11:55 PM
From personal experience I didn't want to waste my time converting syno to test prop or suspension, and didn't want to go looking for a source for legit test. I did however use some 4-AD injectable cyp which worked just fine for keeping Mr. Happy, well, uh, happy!
01-02-2004, 12:08 PM
4ad works to combat the fina-dick, however, it doesnt even come close to giving you the results you would see if you use 500-750mg of test/week.
I personally like going with a longer test ester first (cyp or enan) and then switching to prop the last 5-6 weeks of the cycle.
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