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I'm going to give a THE ONE a shot. This is the first PH i have tried and was wondering about PCT and any other supps that should be taken with it. In reading other thread it talks about milkthistle for liver and also taking fish oil.
When ordering THE ONE it comes with 2nd gear which has milk thistle. Now do I take 2nd gear during my cycle of THE ONE or after I am complete. I am also going to be taking aminal paks vitamins, and animal stak.
 
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You dont need to run Animal Stak with The One, it could be run with your PCT if you wanted. I'd Recommend using cycle support by Anabolic Innovations or Cycle Assist by Competitive Edge Labs while you are using The One to protect your liver. You may also want to keep an eye on other peoples logs to see if they end up running SERMs with their PCT, even though AN says you dont need a SERM.
 
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screw animal packs, pickup some intramax

And dont attempt to screw Animal paks, just use them. They have been around for 25 years, its a tried and true supplement. You cant go wrong with them. Always a staple for me.
 
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And dont attempt to screw Animal paks, just use them. They have been around for 25 years, its a tried and true supplement. You cant go wrong with them. Always a staple for me.
totally agree.

animal stak2 is great for pct, it has everything you need for pct. dont take it with the one, it will do nothing, and may even hinder gains due to the dht conversion blockers. (prevents test from converting to dht) but I personally feel it will stak great with 2nd gear.

take animal stak for first week (before bed is my preferance), then add in 2nd gear weeks 2-4. animal stak will only last you 3 weeks, so for the last week on 2nd gear make sure to taper the dosage as much as possible.

milk thistle really isn't needed on cycle, liver toxicity is over rated, and not anything to worry about for a 4 week cycle, even at 100mg e.d. but post cycle, you wanna get that liver back to tip top shape as quickly as possible. so take the milk thistle, animal stak2 and 2nd gear both have 200mg of milk thistle.

I've never used cycle support sups, and have always been fine, but everyone is different, if you are worried, you may want to take it.

last, you may want to take some more time, and research aas, and most importantly post cycle therapy.

here are some "key words" you can google for info on pct:

" Anthony Roberts Post Cycle Therapy"

"otc pct"

"Post cycle therapy" just for more general info.

Good luck, Im starting my cycle of "the one" in april to see how it compares to dymethazine.
 
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animal packs are okay at best compared to intramax, just saying..

Here's the comparison, and the reason I use intramax;

These are animal packs ingredients, and it's all pill form so keep in mind its about 28% bioavailability..

15 Paks
Supplement Facts
Serving Size2Paks
Servings Per Container7.5
Amount Per Serving % DV
Calories 16
Total Carbohydrates 1g <1%*
Protein 3g 6%*
Vitamin A(as Acetate & 66% As ß-Carotene) 9900IU 198%
Vitamin C(as Ascorbic Acid) 1g 1667%
Vitamin D(as Ergocalciferol) 680IU 170%
Vitamin E(as D-A-Tocopheryl Acetate) 300IU 1000%
Thiamin(as Thiamin HCL) 76mg 5067%
Riboflavin 76mg 4471%
Niacin(as Niacinamide) 82mg 410%
Vitamin B6(as Pyridoxine HCL) 72mg 3600%
Folic Acid 400mcg 100%
Vitamin B12(as Cyanocobalamin) 6mcg 100%
Biotin 300mcg 100%
Pantothenic Acid(as Calcium Pantothenate) 76mg 760%
Calcium(as Citrate, Carbonate) 2g 200%
Phosphorus(as Calcium Phosphate) 228mg 23%
Iodine(from Kelp) 150mcg 100%
Magnesium(as Oxide) 133mg 33%
Zinc(as Oxide) 30mg 200%
Selenium(as Selenite) 50mcg 71%
Copper(as Sulfate) 600mcg 30%
Manganese(as Sulfate) 11mg 550%
Chromium(as Picolinate) 6mcg 5%
Potassium(as Sulfate) 200mg 6%
Amino Acid Blend
Lysine(from Lactalbumin) 300mg **
Methionine(from Lactalbumin) 500mg **
Leucine(from Lactalbumin) 100mg **
Valine(from Lactalbumin) 760mg **
Threonine(from Lactalbumin) 48mg **
Glutamic Acid(from Lactalbumin) 700mg **
Phenylalanine(from Lactalbumin) 560mg **
Arginine(as L-Arginine) 2g **
Performance Optimizers
Eleuthero(Root) 2g **
Oriental Ginseng(Root) 250mg **
Milk Thistle 500mg **
Alpha Lipoic Acid 200mcg **
Inosine(Hypoxanthine Riboside) 500mg **
Pyridoxine-A-Ketoglutarate 200mg **
Carnitine(as L-Carnitine) 25mg **
Chromium Picolinate 50mcg **
Coenzyme A 20mg **
Coenzyme B12 10mg **
Phosphatidylcholine 200mg **
Para-Aminobenzoic Acid 400mg **
Colostrum(Bovine) 25mg **
Argentine Liver(Bovine) 3.9g **
Choline Complex 1.2g **
Bioflavonoids(Citrus) 1g **
Essential Fatty Acid Complex
Linoleic Acid 200mg **
Oleic Acid 100mg **
Digestive Enzymes
Betaine HCL 200mg **
Pepsin 64mg **
Papain 64mg **
Pancreatin 700mg **
Mycozyme 64mg **
Lipase 10mg












And here is Intramax's, and keep in mind that its a liquid shot, so its about 97% bioavailability, and the whole mix is 100% organic.



Rapid Immune Recovery & Defense Blend™
10,572 mg/l - Proprietary intraCELL™V Technology tds) 100% Organic microcomplexes™ Perfect Whole Foods & Phyto Nutrition - Super energizing - All Natural Defense!*
Additional Support for: Pain, Energy, Stress, Respiratory (EENT/Lungs/Allergy); A.D.D./; Cholesterol Reduction; A.D.H.D., C.F.S./C.F.I.D.S., Fibromyalgia/M.E., M.C.S./E.I., Autoimmune, Neurologics, PMS/Menopause/Hot Flashes; Arthritis, Heart, Brain, Lungs, Liver, Kidneys, Pancreas, Spleen, Addictions/Cravings, Digestion/I.B.S., Ulcers, Disease Prevention and much more.
Yeast, Parasite Detoxifier & Autoimmune Recovery Matrix™
Artemesia Annua Extract 4:1, Caprylic Acid (octanoic acid) (from medium-chain triglycerides) (vegetable derived), Clove (flower), Horehound (leaf), Nigella (black cumin) (seed), Oregano Extract (oil 80-85% carvacrol) (origanum vulgare), Pau d'arco (inner bark), Peppermint (leaf), Thyme (leaf), Winter Melon (seed), Wormwood (leaf)
Blood, Brain/Allergy/Neuro, Cellular & Intestinal Detoxifer Matrix™
Apple pectin (fiber), Barley Grass (gluten Free) (pwdr), Beet Fiber, Burdock Root Extract 1:1, Chicory Extract 4:1 (root), Flax (seeds), Fenugreek (seeds) (w/ Mannose), Ginger Root (pwdr), Indian Rhubarb Extract 4:1 (root), Raspberry Extract (red) (15-20% Ellagic Acid), Red Yeast Rice (statins) w/ policosanol (plant sterol complex), Sheep Sorrel Extract 4:1 (leaves), Silymarin Extract (milk thistle) (seed) 30:1 yielding 75-80% silymarin, Slippery Elm Extract 4:1 (bark), Turkish Rhubarb Extract 4:1 (root), Yellow Dock (pwdr)
Inflammation, Pain, Allergy & Weight Inhibiting Matrix™; * [ w/ the essential sugars: Fucose, Galactose, Glucose, Mannose & Xylose]™
Aloe Vera Juice Extract 100:1 (w/ the essential sugars Mannose & Xylose) (organically bound), Beta Glucan (1/3, 1/6), Buchu Extract 4:1 (root & leaf) (dried & wildcrafted), Calendula (leaf), Chlorella (broken cell pyrenoidosa w/ d-glucarate), Chlorophyll (natural) (from alfalfa leaves), Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) (from safflower oil concentrate), Cis-9, Trans-11 Isomer & Trans-10, Cis-12 Isomer, Dandelion (root), Dunaliella Salina (chem. Free) (algae), Echinacea Purpurea (stem, leaf & flower) & Angustifolia (root), Feverfew Extract (1:1), Garcinia Combogia Extract 4:1, Glucosamine (sulfate) [w/ Chondroitin (sulfate) and Hyaluronic Acid (HA) (extra-cellular mucopolysaccharide bacteria) (No animal derivatives)], Gotu Kola Extract 4:1 (leaf), Kelp (N. Atlantic chem. Free) (sea vegetable), Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), Mustard (seed), Nova Scotia Dulse (chem. Free) (sea vegetable), Oat Grass (pwdr), Olive Extract (leaf) standardized to contain 17-23% oleuropein, Propolis - 60 brix grade (Brazilian premium green bee extract - wax Free from polenectar), Pygeum Extract 4:1 (bark) , Saw Palmetto Extract (berries) (standardized to contain 90-95% fatty acids & sterols), Silver (organically bound) (non-colloidal), Suma Extract 1:1 (root), Superoxide Dismutase (S.O.D.) (gliadin complex-vegetarian), TMG (trimethylglycine) (as betaine anhydrous)
Amino Acid Matrix™ - "Building Blocks" of Protein: [w/ the essential sugars: N-Acetylgalactosamine & N-Acetylglucosamine & N-Acetylneuraminic Acid] (Rejuvenate & Repair of: Bone, Muscle, Cartilage, Tendons, Ligaments & Fascia) *
Essential Aminos: *L-Histidine *L-Isoleucine, *L-Leucine, *L-Lysine, *L-Methionine, *L-Phenylalanine, *L-Threonine, *L-Tryptophan, *L-Valine. Non-Essential Aminos: L-Alanine, L-Arginine, L-Asparagine, Aspartic Acid, L-Carnitine, L-Citruline, L-Cysteine, L-Cystine, Ellagic Acid, Gamma-Aminobutyric Acid (GABA), **Glucosamine (sulfate), Glutamic Acid, L-Glutamine, L-Glutathione, L-Glycine, L-Ornithine, L-Proline, L-Pyroglutamic Acid, Rice Bran (soluble) (pwdr), L-Serine, L-Taurine, L-Tyrosine, N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (NAC), Creatine Monohydrate (dymatized & micronized), (* - Essential Amino Acids; ** - Amino Sugar)
Pure Plant Digestive Enzymes, Probiotic & Intestinal Dysbiosis Matrix™: * (non-dairy over 10.0 billion cultures human strain total count)
Enzymes: Alpha & Beta Amylase, Alpha Galactosidase, Bromelain, Cellulase, Glucoamylase, Hemicellulase, Lactase, Lipase, Maltase, Marshmallow (root), Papain, Papaya Leaf, Rutin, Serrapeptase, Sucrase. Probiotics: Bifidobacterium Group: (B.bifidum, B.breve, B.longum, B.lactis), Lactobacillus Group: (L.acidophilus, L.brevis, L.bulgaricus, L.casei, L.GG, L.longum, L.plantarum, L.rhamnosus, L.salivarus, L.sprorgenes, L.thermophilus), Fructooligosaccharides (FOS).
Herbal Brain/Neuro/Memory/Clarity, Mood, Stress, Energy & Vitality Matrix™:*
Alfalfa Grass (gluten Free) (pwdr), Ashwagandha Extract 16:1 (root), Astragalus (root), Bee Pollen (pwdr) (100% pure) (chloramphenicol-free 10-HDA content of 5-10%), Bilberry Extract (20-25% anthocyanidins), Cat's Claw (root) (standardized to .8-1.3% POA's and 100% TOA Free), Cilantro Extract (coriandrum sativum), Dong Quai (root) (w/ 0.2-0.25% ligustilide), Ginkgo Biloba (19-24% ginkgo flavoglycides), Green Tea Extract 4:1 (caffeine free), Hawthorn Berry Dried Extract (leaf & flower 13-18% Oligomeric Procyanidins), Huperzine A (from Chinese club moss huperzia serrata), Licorice (root), N-AcetylTyrosine, Parsley Extract (root), Royal Jelly (5-10% 10-HDA) (3x concentrate), Schizandra Extract 4:1 (berry), Spirulina (micro blue-green) (Hawaiian), St. John's Wort (0.3 hypericin) (pwdr), Uva Ursi Dried Extract (leaf) 15-20% arbutin, Wheat Grass (gluten free) (pwdr), Vinpocetine (from vinca minor, dwarf periwinkle plant), Wild Yam (rhizomes)
Antioxidant Rich Vegetable Garden, Optimum Seed, Sprout & Fiber Matrix™: [w/ / the essential sugars: Galactose, Glucose, Mannose, Xylose & N-Acetylneuraminic Acid] *
Vegetables: Artichoke, Asparagus, Beets, Broccoli, Brussels Sprouts, Cabbage, Cauliflower, Carrot, Celery, Garlic, Green Beans, Green Bell Peppers, Kale, Leek, Mustard Green, Onion, Okra, Parsley, Parsnip, Peas (green), Red Pepper, Spinach, Sweet Potato, Turnip, Tomato, Yam, Yellow Squash
Seeds, Sprouts & Fiber: Amaranth Seed Sprout, Millet Seed Sprout, Kidney Bean Seed Sprout, Flax Seed Sprout, Quinoa Sprout, Sunflower Seed Sprout, Pumpkin Seed Sprout, Sesame Seed Sprout.
Antioxidant Rich Fruit Orchard Matrix™ [w/ the essential sugars: Galactose, Glucose, Xylose & N-Acetylneuraminic Acid]: *
Acai, Apple, Apricot, Banana, Black Cherry, Blackberry, Blueberry, Cherry Extract (acerola), Cherry (tart), Cranberry, Elderberry, Goji Berry (Wolfberry), Grape, Grapefruit, Kiwi, Lemon, Lime, Mangosteen, Noni, Orange, Papaya, Pear, Pineapple, Pomegranate, Prune, Raisin, Raspberry, Rhubarb, Tangerine
Full Spectrum 70+, 100% Organic Trace Mineral Matrix™ [plus zeolites]: *
Antimony, Barium, Beryllium, Bismuth, Boron, Bromine, Calcium, Carbon, Cerium, Cesium, Chloride, Chromium, Cobalt, Copper, Dysprosium, Erbium, Europium, Fluoride, Gadolinium, Gallium, Germanium, Gold, Hafnium, Holmium, Hydrogen, Indium, Iodine, Iron, Lanthanum, Lithium, Lutetium, Magnesium, Manganese, Molybdenum, Neodymium, Nickel, Niobium, Nitrogen, Osmium, Oxygen, Palladium, Phosphorus, Platinum, Potassium, Praseodymium, Rhenium, Rhodium, Rubidium, Ruthenium, Samarium, Scandium, Selenium, Silicon, Silver, Sodium, Strontium, Sulfur, Tantalum, Tellurium, Terbium, Thallium, Thorium, Thulium, Tin, Titanium, Tungsten, Vanadium, Ytterbium, Yttrium, Zinc, and Zirconium.
NO detectable amounts of Mercury, Lead, Cadmium or Arsenic are present(<0.005 mg/l).*
Vitamins and Nutrients (with Proprietary 100% Organic microcomplexes™) Amt. per serving %Daily Value**
Vitamin A (natural beta carotene, natural alpha carotene & natural mixed carotenoids)**
[mixed carotenoids from: yams, carrot juice, tomato powder, spirulina,
dunaliella salina, alpha carotene, cryptoxanthin, zeaxanthin & lutein) 5,000 IU

100%
Vitamin B1 (natural thiamin pyrophosphate)** 5 mg 330%
Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) (natural co-enzyme form)** 5 mg 295%
Vitamin B3 (niacinamide & inositol hexanicotinate)** 30 mg 150%
Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid & natural calcium pantothenate)** 13 mg 130%
Vitamin B6 (pyrodoxine-5 phosphate)** 16 mg 800%
Vitamin B12 (methylcobalamin)** 25 mcg 415%
Vitamin C (calcium ascorbate buffered complex)** 600 mg 1,000%
Vitamin D (cholecalciferol)** 400 IU 100%
Vitamin E (natural d-alpha-tocopherol, d-gamma tocotrienol, d-delta tocotrienol & d-alpha tocotrienol)** 75 IU 250%
Vitamin K-1 (natural phylloquinone & phytonadione)** 40 mcg 50%
Biotin (d-biotin)** 300 mcg 100%
Folic Acid (as natural folate)** 800 mcg 200%
Choline (choline bitartrate & phosphatidyl choline) (non soy) 140 mg
Inositol & IP-6 (inositol hexanicotinate & inositol hexaphosphate (IP-6 from purified brown rice extract) 25 mg
Lecithin (phosphatidyl choline from virgin red palm oil) (nonsoy) (non GMO - non Genetically modified Organism) 25 mg
Alpha-Ketoglutaric Acid (proprietary buffered blend of alpha ketoglutaric acid, calcium ketoglutarate & maganesium ketoglutarate 25 mg
Alpine Tea (rhodenol) (rhododendron caucasicum) & Fennel (seed & bulb) 25 mg
Arabinogalactan (AG) Extract (natural polysaccharide) 25 mg
Bioflavonoid Citrus Complex: [w/ Quercetin, Oligomeric Proanthocyanidins, Anthocyanosides, Hesperetin, Hesperidin, Flavones, Citrin, Eriodictyol, Quercetrin, Maritime Pine Bark Extract] 25 mg
CoQ10 (co-enzyme Q10) (ubiquinol) 10 mg
DMAE (dimethylaminoethanol, bitartrate) 25 mg
DMG (N, N-dimethylglycine) 25 mg
Gamma-Oryzanol (cycloartenol ferulic acid & trans-ferulic acid) 25 mg
Ginseng Complex (eleutherococcus senticosus, N. American panax quinquefolium) (root) 25 mg
Grape Seed Extract (88-92% proanthocyanidins) 25 mg
Grape Skin Extract (resveratrol) 25 mg
L-Glutathione (reduced) 25 mg
Lutein Extract 5-10% (.20-.25% zeaxanthin) from marigold flowers 1,000 mcg
Lycopene Extract 5-10% (with cryptoxanthin) 2,000 mcg
NADH (reduced â-nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide) 1,000 mcg
Noni Extract 10:1 (morinda citrifolia) 25 mg
Omega 3, 6 & 9 Essential Fatty Acids (hexane Free, No fish, proprietary blend)
- Omega 3 (ALA) & 9 (OA): flax seed oil (cold pressed), linseed oil (cold pressed) & pumpkin seed oil.
- Omega 6 (LA & GLA): evening prmrose oil (cold pressed), black currant oil, hemp oil (cold pressed), sunflower oil & sesame Oil.] 100 mg
PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) 25 mg
Phytosterol Natural Plant Complex w/ Pantethine: [beta sitosterol, campesterol, stigmasterol, brassicasterol & reducol] 25 mg
R-Isomer Alpha Lipoic Acid (R-ALA) 25 mg
RNA (ribonucleic acid) (from spirulina & broken cell chlorella) 1,000 mcg
SAMe (s-adenosyl l-methionine from (S, S) tosylate disulfate) 25 mg
Proprietary 100% Organic microcomplexed™ Technologies Amt. per serving %Daily Value**
Carbon (100% ORGANIC, essential living elements and nutrients)* 144,500 mg/l
Fulvic Acid (% by vol.) (100% ORGANIC, exceptional nutritional carrier and detoxifier)* 9.2 %
Oxygen (dissolved & stabilized) (enhances energy, supports immune system and detoxifies)* 427 mg/l
Macro Minerals (with Proprietary 100% Organic microcomplexes™) Amt. per serving %Daily Value**
Calcium (citrate, ascorbate, d-pantothenate, succinate & d-glucarate)** 500 mg 50%
Chromium (polynicotinate)** 200 mcg 165%
Copper (citrate)** 2 mg 100%
Iodine (sea kelp)** 177 mcg 120%
Iron (ferrous gluconate organically bound)** 5 mg 28%
Magnesium (citrate, malate, taurinate & ketoglutarate)** 200 mg 50%
Manganese (citrate)** 3 mg 150%
Molybdenum (sodium molybdate)** 75 mcg 100%
Phosphorus (di-calcium phosphate)** 700 mg 70%
Potassium (citrate, aspartate & ascorbate)** 99 mg 3%
Selenium (selenomethionine)** 200 mcg 285%
Zinc (citrate, ascorbate & L-methionine)** 15 mg 100%







Not hating on Universal, just putting this out there for you all to see theres better options.
 
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