- 03-19-2009, 06:46 PM
Has anyone every thought of or tried a sort of "semi" pulse?
Basically, say one is taking hdrol and wants to run from 50-100mg for 6 weeks. In a 50mg week, you'd run 50 on the on days, and 25 on the off.
75mg week, you'd run 75 on and 50 off.
100mg week, you'd run 100 on and 75 off
My question, is would running the compound be effective in this manner?
Assume the same question is posed for Epistane
30mg week: 30 on, 20 off
40mg week: 40 on, 30 off
50mg week: 50 on, 40 off
Would one be able to still reap the benefits of a straight cycle, or would it be more comparable to that of a standard pulse cycle?
Could Dr. D maybe give some input seeing as he's the one who launched the whole pulsing thing?
- 03-19-2009, 07:02 PM
the reason people pulse is because they dont want to get shut down and dont want to stress their liver every day....this defeats the purpose of both reasons to pulse and just sounds like a dumb idea to me...just run a straight cycle....its not that bad...take my word for it....some people actually like it....
03-20-2009, 12:25 PM
Yeah it probably won't make a huge difference on the sides, but you could run a bottle longer or at a higher dosage than if you ran the same dose the whole week through.
Would it seriously take away from your gains though? I mean on your off days do you really need the same amount as you on ones for the PH/PS to be effective?
03-20-2009, 03:50 PM
03-20-2009, 03:54 PM
If I run no lower than 50mg of hdrol, or 30mg of Epi would my gains not be appropriate?
I already have two bottles of each. Just trying to figure out how to get the most out of product without wasting.
Also had a buddy mention that a standard 2 days on/2 days off pulse of mdrol could possibly yield a recomp like effect. With Mdrol it seems like water weight seems to be the reason most don't like the gains for a recomp/cut...but couldn't a diuretic help out with that near end cycle?
Just brainstormin man.
03-20-2009, 04:13 PM
i dont know man...im old school...i just run straight cycles....pulse cycles and this sort of non-standard pulse your talking about just seem like a great way to get gyno to me....with your blood levels all over the place i can see the sides being really bad....every month or so these fads kick up and somebody runs a wierd cycle like this....sometimes it works out sometimes it doesnt.....but in my experience a straight cycle works every time....
03-20-2009, 07:20 PM
I thought the idea of a pulse was to minimize sides. How then would a pulse or "semi-pulse" cause sides to show up more so than a straight cycle? You're dosing less.
I'm sure a straight cycle works everytime (with all other variables being in check that is), but science is all about trying to find out what works better.
"If it ain't broke don't fix it" is nice and all...but the fact is, sometimes a better option exists. You can't find it if you constantly revert to "traditional wisdom."
03-20-2009, 08:28 PM
03-20-2009, 09:19 PM
On those off days are you running a test boost and cort blocker like they do in a pulse? Some even run low dose of ATD during a pulse if they're prone to gyno.if im running a straight cycle and start missing days, which is basically what happens on a pulse, i get sides...like my gyno flairing, acne...ect....for me its all about trying to keep consistent
I don't really see running lower doses on off days increasing your chances of bad things happening. I would imagine though, that someone running these compounds should be prepared enough to have various support supps and serm on hand should it be needed.i agree with that...but i dont want to be the guinea pig....what if it goes wrong?
Yeah...but I don't see how when one looks at the benefits of a straight cycle, and looks at the benefits of a pulse cycle, how a sort of common ground cycle wouldn't share some benefits of both a straight cycle AND a pulse cycle.ever hear the term "hair-brained scheme"?....lol just messin with ya man
I mean, straight cycles usually yield more gains with the consequence of more sides. Pulse cycles can be ran at higher doses for longer but require pauses on off days with the substitution of test support/cort/anti-e/what have you.
Do you know of someone on here who would have the scientific expertise to look at this type of cycling method and assess it for themselves? I'd really appreciate it if we could get someone like Dr. D in here.
On a side note...I'm not arguing with you. Just trying to get some answers. Best way to do that IMO is asking questions.
03-22-2009, 06:24 PM
yes its true when running a steroid cycle you need to keep blood levels constant....i was bieng nice before but it looks like you dont want to listen to reason you just want someone to agree with you...as i told you on your other thread you have a lot of research to do....you dont understand whats going on in your body when you take steroids....
03-22-2009, 07:32 PM
I just have an idea, and I'm trying to see if it would work. If you don't think it will...cool...I'm just asking questions so I can get answers.
Sorry if I offended you.
I just didn't know that the change in blood levels made sides more apparent. I realize now, that hdrol has too long of a half-life to be pulsed effectively, since bounce back won't work the same as it does with something like mdrol.
Probably going to do a 2 on/2 off of mdrol, or a straight cycle of hdrol. Thanks for your help though brah.
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