Epistane VS Havoc

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what are, if any, the differences and similarities between epistane and havoc?

Secondly is a SERM necessary for both or can i get away with 6-oxo, cycle support and PCT?

if a SERM which one clomid or nolva? Thanks
 

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Havoc: 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan- 17b-ol
Epi: 2,3a-Epithio-17a-methyletioallo cholan-17b-ol

PCT: a SERM is always recommended.

Check the stickies for Havoc and Epi, they should answer all of your questions
 

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