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    Some spawn cycle help?


    I've pscyhed myself out with all of the reviews about how harmful spawn could be on your endocrine system and liver and such and i'm going to stick with the natural route but I'd like to know, if after only 6 days of spawn, what kind of PCT should I run?

    I know it'd be a bad idea to just stop taking it even though it's only been 5-6 days but please give me the best advice you guys can come up with.

    By the way I'm not on spawn i'm actually on SUPREMACY, same ingredients but some people seem to say spawn is stronger. which i guess for me i wouldn't mind if supremacy wasn't as strong.

    Thanks.

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    I guess I should have explained myself a little more. i understand the bashing though from the information I gave. I did plenty of research before even purchasing, and yes I do have my PCT already, but I was asking to see if i should take any of it after only using the stuff for 6 days. I already have my reversitol and PCS, along with P5P and some trib that i haven't decided if i should use or not yet.

    My plan was this:
    Week 1-4: CoQ10 2x, Hawthorn berries 2x, livercare 4x, Supremacy 3x day.

    PCT:
    Week 1: Reversitol (3)
    Week 2: Reversitol (2)
    Week 3: Reversitol (2)-PCS (4)
    Week 4: Reversitol (1)-PCS (4)
    Week 5: PCS(4)
    Week 6: PCS(4)

    or
    wk1: 3 revs/4 PCS
    wk2: 4 revs/4 PCS
    wk3: 3 revs/3 PCS
    wk4: 2 revs/3 PCS

    Along with P5P, CoQ10, hawthorn berries, and livercare.

    I DID NOT just decide to pop some oral steroids without researching, but even with all of the researching i did before hand i was still ready to get started and had made sure i covered all the basics (I think? Correct me if i'm wrong), but after this week of how well it seems to be working already (I feel solid, strong pumps, up 3-4 pounds...) I guess i got paranoid that if this stuff is this strong am I really messing myself up?

    Think I should just continue on with the cycle as I described?

    Also, am I doing enough for liver support? You only get one liver to work with I don't want to cause damag
    Last edited by rmlphoto; 03-14-2009 at 08:45 PM. Reason: added more explination

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    way to do your research!!!.....you probably dont need anything at all...if your worried pick up any otc pct product, restore,recycle,post cycle assist, etc...etc...
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    WOW! So you just bought some steriods and started popping them without know what it would do to you! And you didn't have a PCT on hand and lined up already??
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    you're fine. a week isn't enough to shut you down. test booster if you're so inclined.
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    Sun's right, you will probably be fine, but next time make sure you have all your goodies on hand before you cycle.
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    I guess I should have explained myself a little more. i understand the bashing though from the information I gave. I did plenty of research before even purchasing, and yes I do have my PCT already, but I was asking to see if i should take any of it after only using the stuff for 6 days. I already have my reversitol and PCS, along with P5P and some trib that i haven't decided if i should use or not yet.

    My plan was this:
    Week 1-4: CoQ10 2x, Hawthorn berries 2x, livercare 4x, Supremacy 3x day.

    PCT:
    Week 1: Reversitol (3)
    Week 2: Reversitol (2)
    Week 3: Reversitol (2)-PCS (4)
    Week 4: Reversitol (1)-PCS (4)
    Week 5: PCS(4)
    Week 6: PCS(4)

    or
    wk1: 3 revs/4 PCS
    wk2: 4 revs/4 PCS
    wk3: 3 revs/3 PCS
    wk4: 2 revs/3 PCS

    Along with P5P, CoQ10, hawthorn berries, and livercare.

    I DID NOT just decide to pop some oral steroids without researching, but even with all of the researching i did before hand i was still ready to get started and had made sure i covered all the basics (I think? Correct me if i'm wrong), but after this week of how well it seems to be working already (I feel solid, strong pumps, up 3-4 pounds...) I guess i got paranoid that if this stuff is this strong am I really messing myself up?

    Think I should just continue on with the cycle as I described?
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    uhhhhhhh
    ding!
    **** yea you should continue. congratulations on your first week.
    theyre steroids. they work and they work well. they work frighteningly well as a matter of fact.
    i think you may have been a but too frightened haa.
    all jokes aside looks like you'll have a nice cycle if youre really feeling it already.
    and get a serm in there for pct. please.
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    i suggest you get a serm if your going to continue. and dont be afraid of the gains i gained 20 lbs off of spawn and i didnt even diet correctly.
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    I agree bro, keep running it. Dont psyc yourself out. Sounds like your getting some good gains. I would start the PCS as discribed in pct number two. You could probably drop the Reversitol, PCS has that in it. As sean and D mentioned, get a serm! And maybe a AI, like 6oxo, and throw in a cort blocker, I run DHEA, help with legthargy as well. Good Luck!
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    Thanks for the reassurance guys I guess I'll keep it going unless I feel some side effects but I really haven't had any negative sides yet.

    Can someone please Lay out The exact PCT I should follow? week by day by dose type thing? thanks for the help!
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    clomid 100 for 2 days then 50/50/25/25
    then your PCS and reversitol either way you have it set up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyou View Post
    clomid 100 for 2 days then 50/50/25/25
    then your PCS and reversitol either way you have it set up
    Is there any other way besides research chems?
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    Also, am I doing enough for liver support? You only get one liver to work with I don't want to cause damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmlphoto View Post
    Is there any other way besides research chems?
    why would you want anything other than research chems?

    Quote Originally Posted by rmlphoto View Post
    Also, am I doing enough for liver support? You only get one liver to work with I don't want to cause damage
    your cycle is not very hepatoxic i would not overdo the liver supps....just gonna hurt your gains
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    why would you want anything other than research chems?
    I was hoping i could go the OTC route? just for availability? But maybe you could make a suggestion? day/week/dosage?

    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    your cycle is not very hepatoxic i would not overdo the liver supps....just gonna hurt your gains
    Thanks for that, my liver is what i was most concerned about. i heard this stuff was harsh on the liver.
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    nope...epi is mild as far as the methyls go....and no honestly i would not go otc with your post cycle therapy for this stack....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    nope...epi is mild as far as the methyls go....and no honestly i would not go otc with your post cycle therapy for this stack....
    think you could pm me what my PCT should be? and how to go about getting it?
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    im sure mooch already helped you out, but just to restate something

    you really can't, well, shouldn't, run an otc pct with these 2 compounds. dienelone is pretty suppressive as far as i hear. probably gonna run some xmass this summer, and i certainly expect small nuts... better safe than sorry, just like ma mammma said, mamma said, ma mama said. ha. but for real man, you'll just never recover properly, eventually loose your gains, and get some narsty gyno in the process.
    epi as well... not the craziest thing but it will certainly shut down your boys in conjuction with the dienelone. not to mention youll be done with its SERM-like qualities and could land yourself some gyno from the rebounding estrogen.

    just looking out brova
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    Just to make you feel better, I totally wussed out on my first two cycles

    One was S1+ (god it was good) and I swore I was shedding like crazy (but I wasn't) so I stopped, and my first s-drol cycle totally freaked me out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skigazzi View Post
    Just to make you feel better, I totally wussed out on my first two cycles

    One was S1+ (god it was good) and I swore I was shedding like crazy (but I wasn't) so I stopped, and my first s-drol cycle totally freaked me out.
    That makes me feel a little better. i was reconsidering again today now that I don't have a definite PCT cause everyone tells me something different
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmlphoto View Post
    think you could pm me what my PCT should be? and how to go about getting it?
    pm me your e-mail
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmlphoto View Post
    That makes me feel a little better. i was reconsidering again today now that I don't have a definite PCT cause everyone tells me something different
    dude you have gotten many PCT responses just choose one... the common thing with all the suggestions is you need a serm. you can get away with just clomid 50/50/25/25 the rest is just to speed it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyou View Post
    dude you have gotten many PCT responses just choose one... the common thing with all the suggestions is you need a serm. you can get away with just clomid 50/50/25/25 the rest is just to speed it up
    Thanks. I just want to be sure. as you said i got many responses Who's to say which is right? but thanks i think that's probably what I'll go with.

    I've seen a lot of Cortisol blocker suggestions? should I consider this as well?

    By the way Just as an update My strength is going up a lot.

    Usually I rep 85's on dumbbells for Mili press and have a hard time kicking them up that first time, sometimes even needing a lift...

    But Today
    3 sets of 95's x6 with no help kicking them up on the first rep like they were 50's. Felt great.

    I know that's not a lot compared to what most people lift but it was a personal best as far as that first rep is concerned.
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    just wait till you hit week 3 and your str skyrockets! yes cortisol blockers are helpfull. AAS from what i read completely stop cort production and after you quit them you get a bad reboud which leads to stored fat. most suggest starting a cort blocker week 3 of pct.
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    I'm quitting the cycle for real this time! I don't know what it is but it's always on the back of my mind that I could be causing permanent damage to my body and what not and it's driving me nuts and sometimes ruins my day/ workout cause I can't focus. I am going to use reversitol for at least 3 weeks in a taper and hopefully that works without sides.

    Any other suggestions?
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    I think the only suggestion you need is to stop freaking out about it..if its gonna bother you this much you probaly shouldnt of started it, or if it was your first PH shuda done a lil more research of the toxicity of the compound you were taking..

    following the proper dosage and PCT you should be fine, but if your gonna stop take a natty t booster and some OTC stuff I guess since im guessing you dont have a serm
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    Quote Originally Posted by spres444 View Post
    I think the only suggestion you need is to stop freaking out about it..if its gonna bother you this much you probaly shouldnt of started it, or if it was your first PH shuda done a lil more research of the toxicity of the compound you were taking..

    following the proper dosage and PCT you should be fine, but if your gonna stop take a natty t booster and some OTC stuff I guess since im guessing you dont have a serm
    It's not like I'm choosing to freak out about it. It's just been getting to me and in my opinion not worth continuing if it's just messing up my focus in the gym anyway.

    I'll be fine running Reversitol?
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