1st Epi cycle question
- 03-09-2009, 09:31 AM
1st Epi cycle question
I am planning my first Epi cycle, it's on its way! My question is, would it be stupid to try and get lean during this cycle. I am trying to lose fat as well as gain muscle. I am willing to not get everything I could get out of a bulk cycle to not have the extra fat. I am 36, 6'-2", 224 lbs. Probably 16% bf. Is this stuff good for cutting or just bulking?
- 03-09-2009, 10:08 AM
i just used it for cutting and was able to loose bf% while not loosing any weight. It kind of pissed me off that I was not loosing any weight but after i figured out that i was still loosing bf% i was pretty stoked!
I would highly recommend the ah-89/hmg stack from american cell labs. That **** worked wonders for me. I am on the pct right now from it.
Here is a link to a thread I started with pics progressing from my stack.
5 weeks into my cutting cycle
- 03-09-2009, 10:09 AM
I'm finishing my epi cycle today. Put on 15 pounds in a month with no noticable fat increase. This makes me believe a cut done properly would work really well. good luck!
03-09-2009, 10:29 AM
15 lbs?!? wow, maybe at 161 lbs you had some "newb" type gains cause thats alot for epi.
I just finished epi at 30/30/40/40 and it was GREAT for cutting. I cut alot of bf and actually gained 5 lbs, and I did it all around 3500-4000 calories/day
03-09-2009, 10:38 AM
So what kind of bf% reduction have you guys seen?
03-09-2009, 11:20 AM
well I had a diet of 2100 calories. And dropped from 12.8% to 11.0%
I am sure someone who had a higher bf% would be able to drop a lot more. my body has been holding on to the my remaining fat for dear life since i got to 12.5%
03-09-2009, 11:25 AM
I checked out your pic and your abs are quite visible though, right? That's all I want. I'm ont looking to get 6% because I know i could never maintain it. I'm hoping to get where you are.
03-09-2009, 12:20 PM
well the top 4 of my abs are visible. The lower is not. My abs just came out from hiding for a few years like 3 weeks ago. I want to get to where i have a full six pack. I would say my abs started to show right at about 12.0% bf
03-09-2009, 12:21 PM
and was it just me or did you guys get an increase in appetite while on epi?
03-09-2009, 01:12 PM
holy hell, i was hungry every 30 mins.. it started to get real annoying after a while $$$$$ lol
03-12-2009, 01:08 PM
good it was not just me.
03-12-2009, 09:08 PM
03-13-2009, 08:14 AM
A couple people have said my 20/30/30/40 Epi cycle was too low for my size, (6'-2", 225) so I bumped it to 20/30/40/40.
I am on my third day at 20. Haven't been to the gym since my very first dose. From what I've read, I should be "feeling" it by day 3. I will be doing chest and tris a bit later today. If I am not feeling anything, should I bump it to 30 early ar stay at 20 for the rest of the week? I want to make sure I get what i can out of this cycle. Does size really matter in the dose?
03-13-2009, 09:00 AM
03-13-2009, 09:08 AM
are you still pulsing?
03-13-2009, 09:10 AM
03-13-2009, 09:26 AM
I am not pulsing. I have done a sust 250 cycle some years back a ph cycle a few years ago. I have been lifting for years.
03-13-2009, 09:37 AM
03-13-2009, 09:54 AM
ya I felt it at 30 but really got good results off 40 . By the way at the end of my cycle I got my body fat checked and ended at 9.9%. So started at 12.8% and ended at 9.9%
03-13-2009, 09:54 AM
03-13-2009, 10:00 AM
any lower than 30/30/40/40 and your wasting your time at your size. Unfortunately, i never really felt anything crazy.. my strength went up slightly .. epi is just reall mild
03-13-2009, 10:18 AM
Cool, thanks guys. I will bump it today.
03-13-2009, 10:23 AM
make sure your taking your support supps too. alot of people will say you dont need them on cycle but its good to be safe
good luck bro!
03-13-2009, 10:32 AM
definitly some EFA for your joints. Mine were on fire at first. But the EFA helped
03-13-2009, 11:19 AM
I'm taking Anabolic Xtreme's Perfect Cycle along with 6-8 or so a day 1000 mg EFA's. (2 with each epi dose) also throughout the day, I am taking Hawthorn Berry for BP and Saw Palmetto. I bought Glucosamine for the joints last night but I'm not sure if that stuff really even works though does it? I will take it anyway. I am taking extra B6, COQ10, D, E, a ton of C plus a multi and a few others that I can't think of right now. Seems like all I do lately is pop pills all day long.
03-13-2009, 11:20 AM
03-13-2009, 12:31 PM
i will have to look at the actual dosage on the bottle when I get home.
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