Original SD+winny, criticism needed. (constructive and flaming) ;)

[DarkDragon]

Ok, here is the idea I have.

SD (original) 10mg/ED wk1-5
Oral Stanozolol wk4-7
20/ED
30/ED
40/ED
I will also be running cycle support from AI

Then clomid or nolvadex, not sure which I want to go with or the dosing. I have read so much here my head is swimming. For the previous SD cycle (10mg/ED ,which was a few years ago, which I got decent gains off of), I took rebound XT and LX, and all was good. I also was thinking of adding LX into the PCT mix, with the clomid or nolva.

I have been training for over 5 years, have done SD before, I am using what I have left over. I have also done some LR3-IGF1 which I have a log of here http://anabolicminds.com/forum/igf-1-gh/34281-darkangel-darkdragons-igf.html

I have some IGF also, and wanted to run that before this, but I don't think that life events will allow me to do so, unless I really, really should wait until I can run the IGF first, or run the IGF with the PCT?

Current stats:
5'5"
189
approx 14%BF

Thanks in advance.

 

[jay21]

just one problem u never go from mass buidler to weaker oral. how about this. wk 1-6 winstrol 50mg per day. after 2 wks use sd that would make a 6 wk cycle and get u big and shredded. ppl here will flame it for being very toxic but iv seen ppl run crazier shi+ and still survive easy. it would make a cool cycle.

 

[DarkDragon]

Run
Wk 1&2
10mg SD /ed and 50mg Winny /ed
then
3-6
winny 50mg/ed

I think that is what you were trying to say?

 

[UnrealMachine]

no read his post again he said to start Superdrol after 2 weeks. Not for the first two weeks only. That's exactly the opposite of what he said.

 

[jay21]

kk here ill spell it cuz my english has limits sometimes
winstrol 50 50 50 50 50 50
sd o o 10 20 20 30

since ur stacking u can try starting at 20 instead of 10

 

[UnrealMachine]

I imagine this stack would be absolutely terrible for your joints. SD alone gave me some problems towards the end, and winstrol is notorious for it. SD adds strength way too fast and Winstrol dries you out. Just my thoughts, might want to take something for that.

 

[DarkDragon]

I thought that it looked odd when it went on paper, thats why I was asking. I was going to add glucosamine and chondroitin into the mix as well.

Also, what is the idea behind using the winny only for the first 2 weeks?

Any ideas on the PCT?

 

[jay21]

try cissus and yes it is a bad reaction.... so u will have to resist puttin up massive weight when stackin with winstrol. joint damage IS a huge thing that mayb happen. so yah its for very experinced ppl and alos extremely toxic to body but u wanna stack them together it is possible

 

[TiTanUp]

I imagine this stack would be absolutely terrible for your joints. SD alone gave me some problems towards the end, and winstrol is notorious for it. SD adds strength way too fast and Winstrol dries you out. Just my thoughts, might want to take something for that.

I had never heard of Sd giving joint problems but now that you mentioned it I had real bad joint pain and popping. I thought maybe because I was lifting heavier.

Good post.

 

[jay21]

ya i got it to too some degree..., but when i stacked epi and hdrol wow oh wow i felt like i needed to inject my joints with oils that how dry i was

 

[DarkDragon]

On my first SD cycle I had no issue with joint pain, although on my first cycle I was at 10mg/ed

 

[jay21]

what were ur gains at 10mg?

 

[DarkDragon]

It was about 4 years ago, I don't remember. I didn't keep a log. Although I do remember they were good for 10mg/ED.

 

[jay21]

yah plus its minimal sides i belive some1 on here gained like 8lbs of 10mg for 4 weeks. good stuff and easily maintained.

 

[jay21]

with that post im off to clas

 

[DarkDragon]

Thanks man, I appreciate it.