Still have minor gyno. another havoc cycle?

  1. Still have minor gyno. another havoc cycle?


    hey i took letrozole for 2 weeks and i lost maybe 30% of gyno. and i was wonder can i do another cycle of havoc or am i doomed and need surgery to ever do another cycle again?

    i was thinking if i did havoc and then for PCT use nolva+aromtise to not grow any more of a gyno.

    also does alcohol like vodka flare up gyno in any way?


  2. can i run another cycle with having a minor gyno? do any of u guys run a cycle still with you minro gyno's??

  3. i wouldnt. i would get it completely fixed first. you can only make it worse by doing more cycles.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    i wouldnt. i would get it completely fixed first. you can only make it worse by doing more cycles.
    holy, so i have to do surgery before cycle to not screw my self? damm.

  5. describe this "gyno"

  6. Quote Originally Posted by ibanezman08 View Post
    describe this "gyno"
    yes..lets start there...

  7. Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    yes..lets start there...
    k, well there are lump things under my nipple..i dont know how to explain in in more depth

  8. Quote Originally Posted by rocky025 View Post
    k, well there are lump things under my nipple..i dont know how to explain in in more depth
    ok so you do have hardened lumps about the size of a dime? any other symptoms? like tender to touch..ur pecs coming to sort of a point at the end? anything?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by bigpapa View Post
    ok so you do have hardened lumps about the size of a dime? any other symptoms? like tender to touch..ur pecs coming to sort of a point at the end? anything?
    yes, no symptoms other then a lil payne when push againt them hard.and yes a pint at the end.... ur good man! u know ur ****!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by rocky025 View Post
    yes, no symptoms other then a lil payne when push againt them hard.and yes a pint at the end.... ur good man! u know ur ****!
    Sounds like gyno to me? I would want to get that sorted before starting another cycle.

  11. It's up to you wether the gains are worth the risk. My opinion is you'll be fine as long as you run a non-aromatizing compound and use a SERM for PCT. I would also make sure you have some more of w/e SERM you use for after PCT incase you need it and also maybe some letro just to have on hand, just in case.

  12. why did you only run the letro for two weeks...keep goin...get rid of that gyno...

  13. Its actually getting better not realy tip on it now and i still on letro i will finish the whole bottle, maybe 1 more week left.its my gyno hurts always after i drink vodak or beer, i wonder why!?

    and what kind of cupound should i run then? cause HAVOC aromatizing WHATEVER YOU CALL IT! i hear a lot of people lactate from it!

    so what should i take thats will yield 6-8lbs in 1 month of mass?

  14. dude the letro is stressing your liver just as bad as an oral steroid...you should not be drinking vodka or beer....and further more if every tiime you drink your gyno flairs!!!to me that would be a good reason not to drink until you get it under control......geez...you kids these days and your man boobs....lol

  15. Quote Originally Posted by rocky025 View Post
    yes, no symptoms other then a lil payne when push againt them hard.and yes a pint at the end.... ur good man! u know ur ****!

    a little pain when you push against them hard huh?

    sounds like you're playing with your nipples and that's why they hurt. and it also just sounds like you have some chest fat.

    if you have elevated estrogen levels, your nipples are going to be puffy but that does not mean you have gyno.

    that's what it souns like TO ME! that you have elevated estrogen levels cuz your PCT was too short.

    and dude, stop drinking! drinking and bodybuilding don't mix too well.

  16. thx for the help guys, yea im gonna stop drinking now for a while let my liver heal up and take some Milk thistle. yea so i was felling my gyno the lumps arnt hard at all they are squishy now so maybe they are going away!

    question: how long can i be on letrozole? i have been doing 2.5mg for 9 days now.. so will my liver as u say handle more time?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by rocky025 View Post

    question: how long can i be on letrozole? i have been doing 2.5mg for 9 days now..
    Untill the GYNO is gone..

  18. It never completely goes away...

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    It never completely goes away...
    no but you can reduce the deposit to a size thats not noticeable.....

  20. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    no but you can reduce the deposit to a size thats not noticeable.....
    Definately..Even to the point where you notice a hard lump,you might be selfconsious..but unless it's real bad it's not noticeable to anyone else..

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico View Post
    Definately..Even to the point where you notice a hard lump,you might be selfconsious..but unless it's real bad it's not noticeable to anyone else..
    and thats all that matters right? its kinda like when your mom used to tell you to make your bed....id always say "why no ones gonna see it"....shed make me make it up anyway....well...jokes on her cuz i dont ever make my bed anymore....b!tch

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    and thats all that matters right? its kinda like when your mom used to tell you to make your bed....id always say "why no ones gonna see it"....shed make me make it up anyway....well...jokes on her cuz i dont ever make my bed anymore....b!tch
    Yeah but you do eat all your vegetables

  23. hahahahaha
    mooch, good stuff

    how about this one...i'm 21 and i don't make my bed...my mom does lol.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ibanezman08 View Post
    hahahahaha
    mooch, good stuff

    how about this one...i'm 21 and i don't make my bed...my mom does lol.
    ohhh no he dii-iiint...lol
  

  
 

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